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Good Swordsmen PvP build
« on: January 21, 2014, 05:11:44 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 05:40:50 AM »

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Does anyone know this build

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 06:00:44 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 06:05:59 PM »

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Thanks ice.

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 10:10:41 PM »

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http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class2#Swordsman-00001041010001010050401000040500401510044500640040

Using Penetrate is almost useless, sure your dex goes up. But in a battle you aren't really going to have time to buff so much. 3 SP left over. Do with it what you will. KoK or not, its still a good build. If you have any questions, just ask me. I've been SM since KR in 2010

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 02:02:31 AM »

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http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class2#Swordsman-00001041010001010050401000040500401510044500640040

Using Penetrate is almost useless, sure your dex goes up. But in a battle you aren't really going to have time to buff so much. 3 SP left over. Do with it what you will. KoK or not, its still a good build. If you have any questions, just ask me. I've been SM since KR in 2010

In your build you don't have range KD and Might really sucks on swordsman. Use how you want, and you don't max your guard or pick scintillation. Swordsman need more KD and good def, dodge isn't important since swordsman have low dodge. When you do low dmg in budokai, and when you fail to kill SK or fighter in 1 attack, you will lose.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 02:55:41 AM »

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In your build you don't have range KD and Might really sucks on swordsman. Use how you want, and you don't max your guard or pick scintillation. Swordsman need more KD and good def, dodge isn't important since swordsman have low dodge. When you do low dmg in budokai, and when you fail to kill SK or fighter in 1 attack, you will lose.

I don't have range KD, I have ranged stun. Might is decent. As long as you have the gear to compliment it. Most people use Spirited Roar because it's overall physical damage, and not crits. So, its a choice honestly. You are right, I should have taken Might out and left the choice to the other person. You don't really need all those other skills. As long as you have 2 stuns and 2 strong attacks, and some buffs you are good. SM are supposed to spam their skills. Scintillation is like a buff itself. It has a cast time and duration, just like Penetrate, which I advised against. Scintillation is pointless because the SM's PVP goal is to not get hit. Using that skill takes time for the cast, giving you more of a chance to get hit. Think about the cast time and the reward. It's like a "buff" to block once. But it takes time to "buff" so really the effects cancel each other out.

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 04:02:20 AM »

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Here watch it. Energy KD are need when you can't use stuns.
If you see they using bleed or some skills you can use guard and most of time it would be blocked thx to that "buff".
Trust me, swordsman need to have a lot of things soo that they can't attack him back. Plus sword attacks, if you use RP charge - KD - MORE DMG , you won't critic soo you can't use KD on them if you wana make dmg. Buff yourself is easy thx to increase stun duration  and more. Trust me, I try SM from friend and they are epic. You need this things and you need to know that dodge won't save you, guard lvl1 same.. Soo get stuns, get more KD, get guard max or scintillation( 2 attacks blocked - 2 stuns or from SK bleed and curse or stun)... I try it and it work, it isn't just luck xD.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 05:55:48 AM »

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Here watch it. Energy KD are need when you can't use stuns.
If you see they using bleed or some skills you can use guard and most of time it would be blocked thx to that "buff".
Trust me, swordsman need to have a lot of things soo that they can't attack him back. Plus sword attacks, if you use RP charge - KD - MORE DMG , you won't critic soo you can't use KD on them if you wana make dmg. Buff yourself is easy thx to increase stun duration  and more. Trust me, I try SM from friend and they are epic. You need this things and you need to know that dodge won't save you, guard lvl1 same.. Soo get stuns, get more KD, get guard max or scintillation( 2 attacks blocked - 2 stuns or from SK bleed and curse or stun)... I try it and it work, it isn't just luck xD.

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2014, 06:51:21 AM »

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I need to rethink my build seeing this :P

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 07:50:37 AM »

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Here watch it. Energy KD are need when you can't use stuns.
If you see they using bleed or some skills you can use guard and most of time it would be blocked thx to that "buff".
Trust me, swordsman need to have a lot of things soo that they can't attack him back. Plus sword attacks, if you use RP charge - KD - MORE DMG , you won't critic soo you can't use KD on them if you wana make dmg. Buff yourself is easy thx to increase stun duration  and more. Trust me, I try SM from friend and they are epic. You need this things and you need to know that dodge won't save you, guard lvl1 same.. Soo get stuns, get more KD, get guard max or scintillation( 2 attacks blocked - 2 stuns or from SK bleed and curse or stun)... I try it and it work, it isn't just luck xD.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the KD, I was just saying I personally never used it. I know why Scintillation was used, but IF you don't get hit, then its not needed. All about that CD and spam though. Yes if you block something it could save you, but then depending on your method/rhythm say it prolonged the fight, and "headbutt" was used a 2nd time. Then you couldn't use it as a starting stun for the next round. I'm not saying your way is wrong, I'm just saying my way is different. Yes the guy in the video was good, but there are other ways to play. Build isn't everything. Take gear, lag, strategy, and your enemy into the equation. You have good points and so do I. Too bad there isn't enough SP to make a build we would both like
« Last Edit: January 25, 2014, 07:53:15 AM by Dycfer »

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 03:38:39 AM »

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Dycfer, I agree with you.
But for swordsman you need to have KD,STUNS and if all that fail, you need to have something to block. But yeah soon DBOR gets out, we will all test it xD.
But since lvl cap will be 38, will be fun who will get gear, skills and use them 100% good.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 01:52:26 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 05:51:08 AM »

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