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« on: January 12, 2016, 09:28:56 AM »

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After reading Chapter 7 of super, it's essentially changed my view of saiyans lifespans.

Whether you have or haven't read the manga, how long do you think they'll generally live for?

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2016, 10:43:39 AM »

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I haven't read the Super manga at all, but... if memory serves, a Saiyajin's lifespan is slightly longer than a humans, or at least they live in their "prime" for longer.

Of course, most of them die young, due to being battle hungry idiots. XD


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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 11:12:47 AM »

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I haven't read the Super manga at all, but... if memory serves, a Saiyajin's lifespan is slightly longer than a humans, or at least they live in their "prime" for longer.

Of course, most of them die young, due to being battle hungry idiots. XD

I once read (and I bet Nia will correct me on this since most of what I read is just wrong) that Saiyans take longer to get old. That's why Goku looked so young since the beginning of Dragon Ball and why he remains the same through most of Z, barely aging at all while everyone else had gotten older.

Not sure if it goes as far as GT does it, or if they exaggerated it. Krillin is nearly as old as Roshi at the beginning of Dragon Ball, probably, but Goku looks the freaking same till he gets turned into a kid (first spoiler! :P)

Not considering GT canon, just comparing that to the whole Saiyan aging deal.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2016, 11:14:35 AM »

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Krillin is nearly as old as Roshi at the beginning of Dragon Ball

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2016, 11:25:38 AM »

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I once read (and I bet Nia will correct me on this since most of what I read is just wrong) that Saiyans take longer to get old. That's why Goku looked so young since the beginning of Dragon Ball and why he remains the same through most of Z, barely aging at all while everyone else had gotten older.

Not sure if it goes as far as GT does it, or if they exaggerated it. Krillin is nearly as old as Roshi at the beginning of Dragon Ball, probably, but Goku looks the freaking same till he gets turned into a kid (first spoiler! :P)

Not considering GT canon, just comparing that to the whole Saiyan aging deal.

Actually, that was exactly what I meant by them remaining in the their prime longer.

Also, in the case of Goku, remember that he was dead for the 7 years before the Buu arc, so he never aged while he was dead, so really the one who should be noted is Vegeta. XD

And honestly, we can safely ignore GT because... GT.
Also, Roshi is like over 100 years old, so Kuririn in GT really wasn't close in age comparitively.

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you got something to fix here, tofu?
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He was saying Kuririn in GT was as old as early Dragon Ball's Kame'senin (which isn't accurate either, I don't think), but it seems you misinterpreted that!


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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 11:50:44 AM »

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Actually, that was exactly what I meant by them remaining in the their prime longer.

Also, in the case of Goku, remember that he was dead for the 7 years before the Buu arc, so he never aged while he was dead, so really the one who should be noted is Vegeta. XD

And honestly, we can safely ignore GT because... GT.
Also, Roshi is like over 100 years old, so Kuririn in GT really wasn't close in age comparitively.
:holdit:

He was saying Kuririn in GT was as old as early Dragon Ball's Kame'senin (which isn't accurate either, I don't think), but it seems you misinterpreted that!

was referring to both statements, but didn't know which of them he was referring too

either way i'm still right

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 05:34:04 PM »
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After reading Chapter 7 of super, it's essentially changed my view of saiyans lifespans.

Whether you have or haven't read the manga, how long do you think they'll generally live for?

skip to 1:40 and listen to what vegeta say
Miss with the bull shit.

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 07:11:38 PM »

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Also, Roshi is like over 100 years old, so Kuririn in GT really wasn't close in age comparitively.
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Actually @Nia  you are wrong here.

When Goku climbed Korin's tower(during the Red Ribbon Arc.), we clearly see Korin stating that the only one who managed to climb Korin's tower before Goku, was none other than Master Roshi. Who climbed all the way to Korin's tower 300 years before Goku did. Making him over 300 years old !!!!

Also if my memory serves me right, Turtle pointed out that Master Roshi drank from mountain of youth. Making him more or less immune to aging further beyond and dying from natural causes.

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skip to 1:40 and listen to what vegeta say

I'm aware if the video. But since the super chapter 7, it appears that their aging speed is a hell of a lot slower than originally explained.

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 10:45:27 PM »

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Actually @Nia  you are wrong here.

When Goku climbed Korin's tower(during the Red Ribbon Arc.), we clearly see Korin stating that the only one who managed to climb Korin's tower before Goku, was none other than Master Roshi. Who climbed all the way to Korin's tower 300 years before Goku did. Making him over 300 years old !!!!

Also if my memory serves me right, Turtle pointed out that Master Roshi drank from mountain of youth. Making him more or less immune to aging further beyond and dying from natural causes.

300 is still “over a hundred”, so he’s not wrong.

Also, it was established before that Saiyans live about as long as humans and just don’t age as quickly, but age rapidly after reaching a certain point. I believe the information came from a guidebook, but Dragon Ball Online made this an explicit part of its backstory, with Goku and Vegeta going off into space to cause some supernova-like explosion when they were in (I think) their 80s.

...Man do I miss Online’s respect for established lore and the fact that it didn’t suck Goku’s naughtyword with universe-punching naughtyword. That’s still a better ending than anything Super could come up with.


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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 01:10:41 AM »
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Of course, the most likely reason of them all is Akira Toryiama probably didn't want Goku and Vegeta to age too much. I mean, damn, he's still young in the movies.

But that's no fun.

I too also thought an average Saiyan can stay in their prime longer then a human, but they die at around the same age as humans. I'll go see where I got that from though.

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 02:40:10 AM »

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Goku Dies around Age 806~, which is 22 Years after the end of DBZ.

Which would make Goku around 72~
and they are just about done.

So i'd say they live the same length, their bodies just don't degrade early or at all, so probably 75~ the peek for a saiyan.
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 03:41:04 AM »

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Actually @Nia  you are wrong here.

When Goku climbed Korin's tower(during the Red Ribbon Arc.), we clearly see Korin stating that the only one who managed to climb Korin's tower before Goku, was none other than Master Roshi. Who climbed all the way to Korin's tower 300 years before Goku did. Making him over 300 years old !!!!

Also if my memory serves me right, Turtle pointed out that Master Roshi drank from mountain of youth. Making him more or less immune to aging further beyond and dying from natural causes.
I just knew he was over 100 years, not the specific number (even my Dragon Ball information occasionally has a Goku-sized gap in it).


Goku Dies around Age 806~, which is 22 Years after the end of DBZ.

Which would make Goku around 72~
and they are just about done.

So i'd say they live the same length, their bodies just don't degrade early or at all, so probably 75~ the peek for a saiyan.
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Is that taking into account the years he was dead?
Let me do a rough count.
12 at at the 21st Budokai> 15 at the 22nd> 18 at the 23rd> 23 when Raditz appears> Remains dead while training, so he doesn't age and is still 23 during the Raditz arc> Ages by around a year and a half after the Freeza arc, so at least 24> 27 when the Jinzoningen arrive> Remains dead for 7 years so is still 27> 34 during the end of Z...
So, he'd be around 56 when he presumably dies settling the score with Vegeta.

If Vegeta had at least 8 years on him (plus, Vegeta was already a little older, as is), which means... Goku's kinda a naughtyword to his rival.
"Hey, I'm feeling like an old fart; time to settle our rivalry!"
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 03:56:48 AM »

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I just knew he was over 100 years, not the specific number (even my Dragon Ball information occasionally has a Goku-sized gap in it).

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Is that taking into account the years he was dead?
Let me do a rough count.
12 at at the 21st Budokai> 15 at the 22nd> 18 at the 23rd> 23 when Raditz appears> Remains dead while training, so he doesn't age and is still 23 during the Raditz arc> Ages by around a year and a half after the Freeza arc, so at least 24> 27 when the Jinzoningen arrive> Remains dead for 7 years so is still 27> 34 during the end of Z...
So, he'd be around 56 when he presumably dies settling the score with Vegeta.

If Vegeta had at least 8 years on him (plus, Vegeta was already a little older, as is), which means... Goku's kinda a naughtyword to his rival.
"Hey, I'm feeling like an old fart; time to settle our rivalry!"
"God damn it, Kakaroto..."

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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2016, 04:40:17 AM »

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I just did a dod - dob
That's okay. I slightly goofed up on my count, using the 7 years before the Buu arc, instead of the 10 years after it.
He'd be 37 during the epilogue, which mean around 59 during his final showdown with Vegeta (approximately).


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I just knew he was over 100 years, not the specific number.

Oh my god. I swear i saw "about 100 hundred years old". My bad :P

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Oh my god. I swear i saw "about 100 hundred years old". My bad :P

No biggie. I did word it in an admittedly derpy way.
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He was saying Kuririn in GT was as old as early Dragon Ball's Kame'senin (which isn't accurate either, I don't think), but it seems you misinterpreted that!

I'm quite sure it wasn't accurate but I think it's the best comparison I can give...

No biggie. I did word it in an admittedly derpy way.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2016, 02:50:08 PM »

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I'm quite sure it wasn't accurate but I think it's the best comparison I can give...

It's Nia's fault.

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This one is on your head!

And that, my friend, is @Monkey D. Luffy's fault.
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2016, 10:21:49 PM »
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75 years. :salt:

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75 years.
im sorry 75 years? Goku was over 70 and he still looked like he was in his 20's it most likely more than 80 but 75 not really man

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I am pretty sure it's 75.

Toriama said it.  :salt:

True.

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I am pretty sure it's 75.

Toriama said it.  :salt:

True.

One, that's not how you spell his name, two, where's your proof?  Post actual evidence before saying "well Toriyama said it bruh", or no one will believe you.
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I just remembered a fact you didn't consider for Goku's age, Nia (or maybe you did and I missed it). He spent one year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. That would make him physically older by one year in one day.
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