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« on: June 09, 2015, 06:43:45 AM »

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Can EoZ Krillin defeat 100% Frieza? If not, whats the strongest version of Frieza he can defeat?

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2015, 06:52:04 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 06:59:25 AM »
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Honestly, I say second or third form. Beerus stated that Goku couldn't beat Freeza in just his base form while examining him so Krillin taking one Freeza at 100% would just be suicide. We don't even know if Kienzan would work at that level of power since Cell gave it the middle finger without even caring.

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 07:03:31 AM »
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Krillin is weak. He could beat first form Fireza (probably) but not any other plan.

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 07:07:01 AM »

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Technically, he got way stronger through the last two sagas in Z and Krillin is considered the strongest human. Is it possible that his power was high enough to be compared to a Super Saiyan? I don't really know that since I suck at these kind of facts but by putting it that way, I don't think so. Maybe he defeated an enemy we're aware is stronger than a Super Saiyan 1 Goku from that saga and that would mean he did get stronger than 100% Freeza.

I guess any of the smart guys in the forums will bring up some facts that will reveal us if he's stronger than Freeza or not.


Honestly, I say second or third form. Beerus stated that Goku couldn't beat Freeza in just his base form while examining him so Krillin taking one Freeza at 100% would just be suicide. We don't even know if Kienzan would work at that level of power since Cell gave it the middle finger without even caring.

Isn't Kienzan supposed to cut through ANYTHING without exception?
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 07:09:40 AM »

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Base Form Freezer after/during RoF would kick the living daylights out of Krillin (End of Z). IMHO.

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 07:12:05 AM »

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Honestly, I say second or third form. Beerus stated that Goku couldn't beat Freeza in just his base form while examining him so Krillin taking one Freeza at 100% would just be suicide. We don't even know if Kienzan would work at that level of power since Cell gave it the middle finger without even caring.
Although now base form Goku can beat him right? Since ever since he went into SSJG his base mode became stronger.

Technically, he got way stronger through the last two sagas in Z and Krillin is considered the strongest human. Is it possible that his power was high enough to be compared to a Super Saiyan? I don't really know that since I suck at these kind of facts but by putting it that way, I don't think so. Maybe he defeated an enemy we're aware is stronger than a Super Saiyan 1 Goku from that saga and that would mean he did get stronger than 100% Freeza.
Nah, I don't think he is strong as a Super Saiyan 1 yet. SSJ gives the user a real big increase of strength. Although you make a good point



Base Form Freezer after/during RoF would kick the living daylights out of Krillin (End of Z). IMHO.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 07:16:51 AM »

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Goku and Vegeta's new Base Powerlevel is SSJ3ish, if not stronger. They're confirmed to be at least stronger than 70% Bills/Beerus as SSGSSs.
So it's Namek Frieza VS EoZ Krillin? 3rd Form then.

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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 07:23:20 AM »

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I'm going to be cynical and say none of them.

He nearly gives up fighting after going to Namek, and while he trained for the cybogdroids, we never actually see the fruits of his labor, so it's impossible to really gauge his capabilities. There's no proof one way or another that he's stronger than even Freeza in his first form, so it makes the most sense to assume the worst rather than going out on a limb and guesstimating. The only way he'd be able to defeat Freeza is if he was actually able to aim his Kienzan.


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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2015, 07:26:40 AM »

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The only way he'd be able to defeat Freeza is if he was actually able to aim his Kienzan.
Frieza can't sense Energy/Ki. Taiyouken and Kienzan all day, Baby! =P
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2015, 07:43:14 AM »
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Isn't Kienzan supposed to cut through ANYTHING without exception?
Seeing as how it completely shattered when it hit Perfect Cell's neck (and that was a clean shot from a pissed off Krillin while Cell wasn't even paying attention) and SSJ2 Gohan managed to catch two thrown at him from Cell, it obviously has its limits. Granted Goku managed to use it to cut Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed in half, but since he's much more powerful than Krillin his Kiensan would be much more powerful as well. To its credit though, if the power gap between the user and the target isn't very (and that's a big "very") drastic (and as Kiyza said it was aimed right) than it's capable of severe harm if not outright killing a target who's much more powerful.

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Hell yeah Kirllin can beat Freiza. Tien can beat Freiza too. Unless cell is somehow weaker than Freiza. Which I doubt. The Androids are stronger than freiza.

Im not gonna say anything about Yamcha because..... I just dont see any point.

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Hell yeah Kirllin can beat Freiza. Tien can beat Freiza too. Unless cell is somehow weaker than cell. Which I doubt. The Androids are stronger than freiza.

Im not gonna say anything about Yamcha because..... I just dont see any point.
Tien would have a better chance against Freeza, especially considering he, unlike Krillin, doesn't slack off with his training. The fact that he was able to use his Kikoho (Tri-Beam Cannon) to keep Semi-Perfect Cell at bay helps this.

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Tien would have a better chance against Freeza, especially considering he, unlike Krillin, doesn't slack off with his training. The fact that he was able to use his Kikoho (Tri-Beam Cannon) to keep Semi-Perfect Cell at bay helps this.

Krillin's like "Already married a hot blonde chick. Why keep working out?" ;D
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Krillin's like "Already married a hot blonde chick. Why keep working out?" ;D
Android 18 be like "Keep working out and get me more money." Also they do have a child to feed and live with Master Roshi...which must be a major headache for 18.

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Tien would have a better chance against Freeza, especially considering he, unlike Krillin, doesn't slack off with his training. The fact that he was able to use his Kikoho (Tri-Beam Cannon) to keep Semi-Perfect Cell at bay helps this.
Right and even though I say without a question that Tien is stronger than Krillen, people like to say Krillin is stronger.   Now after the cell event , all the characters in DBZ have gotten stronger. Compared to Cell, freiza is Extremly weak, I say those two Humans would have no issue with Freiza. End of Z humans could wipe out freiza.(Except Hercule..... and probably Yamcha.....)




I know this isnt about Tien, But Ive got so much respect for this guy.

Watching this , I know for sure who would win against Freiza.
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Yeah they got really strong, but would a human be able defeat a outer space galactic leader? It's not likely.
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Right and even though I say without a question that Tien is stronger than Krillen, people like to say Krillin is stronger.   Now after the cell event , all the characters in DBZ have gotten stronger. Compared to Cell, freiza is Extremly weak, I say those two Humans would have no issue with Freiza. End of Z humans could wipe out freiza.(Except Hercule..... and probably Yamcha.....)




I know this isnt about Tien, But Ive got so much respect for this guy.

Watching this , I know for sure who would win against Freiza.


And this my freinds , was how the Tri Beam Canyon was formed.
Plus Freiza is nothing to Cell, That goes for all his versions.

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Seeing as how it completely shattered when it hit Perfect Cell's neck (and that was a clean shot from a pissed off Krillin while Cell wasn't even paying attention) and SSJ2 Gohan managed to catch two thrown at him from Cell, it obviously has its limits. Granted Goku managed to use it to cut Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed in half, but since he's much more powerful than Krillin his Kiensan would be much more powerful as well. To its credit though, if the power gap between the user and the target isn't very (and that's a big "very") drastic (and as Kiyza said it was aimed right) than it's capable of severe harm if not outright killing a target who's much more powerful.

The Kienzan is never used against Cell in the manga, for what it's worth, nor do I recall it being used against Boo at any point in time. Considering it was able to cut Freeza's tail clean off in his second form, given the gap between Kuririn and Freeza at the time, it certainly seems to be capable of doing quite a bit.


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Except that Tenshinhan's Kikoho drains his lifespan every time he uses it, and it would probably kill him.
And that Toriyama officially declared that Kuririn is stronger than Tenshinhan.

Also, normal Goku is stronger than Kuririn, and it was stated by Beerus that a normal-form Goku couldn't beat Freeza at his full power.

So, no. Kuririn (let alone Tenshinhan) would not be able to kill 100% full power Freeza.


The Kienzan is never used against Cell in the manga, for what it's worth, nor do I recall it being used against Boo at any point in time. Considering it was able to cut Freeza's tail clean off in his second form, given the gap between Kuririn and Freeza at the time, it certainly seems to be capable of doing quite a bit.
Kuririn's Kienzan on Cell was filler.
However, Goku used a Kienzan on Buu.


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Except that Tenshinhan's Kikoho drains his lifespan every time he uses it, and it would probably kill him.
And that Toriyama officially declared that Kuririn is stronger than Tenshinhan.

Also, normal Goku is stronger than Kuririn, and it was stated by Beerus that a normal-form Goku couldn't beat Freeza at his full power.

So, no. Kuririn (let alone Tenshinhan) would not be able to kill 100% full power Freeza.

Kuririn's Kienzan on Cell was filler.
However, Goku used a Kienzan on Buu.

Sure it would drain his lifespan but that would be more than enough to kill freiza?

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@Nia So what form do you think Krillin can defeat?
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Except that Tenshinhan's Kikoho drains his lifespan every time he uses it, and it would probably kill him.
And that Toriyama officially declared that Kuririn is stronger than Tenshinhan.

Also, normal Goku is stronger than Kuririn, and it was stated by Beerus that a normal-form Goku couldn't beat Freeza at his full power.

So, no. Kuririn (let alone Tenshinhan) would not be able to kill 100% full power Freeza.

Kuririn's Kienzan on Cell was filler.
However, Goku used a Kienzan on Buu.
I'm pretty sure Goku was suppressing his power.

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Sure it would drain his lifespan but that would be more than enough to kill freiza?

Freeza got cut in half, blown up, caught in Namek's explosion, floated in space with only half his head intact...

Probably not.
Plus, keep in mind that Kikoho didn't even really do any significant damage to Cell. It just kinda annoyed him.
Who's to say it wouldn't have been the same way with Freeza?

The Kikoho is powerful... but it's not THAT powerful. It couldn't even kill Nappa, remember? And that was a much smaller gap in power.

Plus, a Kaioken x20 using Goku couldn't even harm Freeza who was only using half of his full power. I doubt Kuririn or Tenshinhan have 20 times the power Goku had on Namek.

@Nia So what form do you think Krillin can defeat?

I think he could possibly beat the first form, and maybe the second. But beyond that, I have my doubts.

I'm pretty sure Goku was suppressing his power.
There's nothing that suggests that.


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Freeza got cut in half, blown up, caught in Namek's explosion, floated in space with only half his head intact...

Probably not.
Plus, keep in mind that Kikoho didn't even really do any significant damage to Cell. It just kinda annoyed him.
Who's to say it wouldn't have been the same way with Freeza?

The Kikoho is powerful... but it's not THAT powerful. It couldn't even kill Nappa, remember? And that was a much smaller gap in power.

Plus, a Kaioken x20 using Goku couldn't even harm Freeza who was only using half of his full power. I doubt Kuririn or Tenshinhan have 20 times the power Goku had on Namek.

I think he could possibly beat the first form, and maybe the second. But beyond that, I have my doubts.
There's nothing that suggests that.
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