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« on: April 30, 2015, 04:55:21 AM »

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This is a video explaining Venezuela's current condition and why have many people been leaving. It talks about the government's corruption even showing stuff even I didn't know about and also talks about the problems that started back in February 2014 when the people decided to prostest for their freedom and their rights.

It's quite long but at least it's in english (might not be perfectly pronounced since it's our second language). I found it worth sharing and if any of you does so too I'd appreciate it. Venezuela might need international help if we plan on finally ending this chaos since I really doubt this will end up pacifically.

There's been a lot of countries focused on us lately (specially after the Summit of the Americas) but I still wanted to keep on sharing to make more people know about us. I'm not even a guy that usually shares videos and stuff so that must say a lot about this.

For the people that is not very good with english, the video has spanish subtitles too so don't worry.

Spoiler for In Spanish:
Este es un videos explicando la condición actual de Venezuela y por que tantas personas han estado emigrando. Habla de la corrupción del gobierno e incluso muestra una que otra cosa que ni yo sabía pero también habla de las protestas que empezaron en febrero de 2014 cuando la gente empezó a reclamar su libertad y sus derechos.

Es algo largo y está en inglés (aunque no pronunciado perfectamente porque es nuestro segundo idoma). Me pareció que valía la pena compartirlo y si cualquiera de ustedes hace lo mismo estaría bastante agradecido. Puede que Venezuela necesite ayuda internacional para ponerle fin a este caos porque dudo bastante que se pueda resolver pacíficamente.

Últimamente muchos países han estado atentos a lo que pasa en mi país (especialmente después de La Cumbre de las Américas) pero de todos modos quería compartir el video para que más gente supiera lo que pasa aquí. Ni siquiera soy una persona que normalmente comparte videos que le gustan, eso debe decir mucho de este.

Para los que no son muy buenos con el inglés, el video tiene subtítulos en español así que no se preocupen por eso.
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 05:20:33 AM »

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Didnt watch the video yet,but wich country did you move too?
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2015, 05:33:51 AM »

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Didnt watch the video yet,but wich country did you move too?

I moved to Panama. Can't afford American universities :P
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This is a video explaining Venezuela's current condition and why have many people been leaving. It talks about the government's corruption even showing stuff even I didn't know about and also talks about the problems that started back in February 2014 when the people decided to prostest for their freedom and their rights.

It's quite long but at least it's in english (might not be perfectly pronounced since it's our second language). I found it worth sharing and if any of you does so too I'd appreciate it. Venezuela might need international help if we plan on finally ending this chaos since I really doubt this will end up pacifically.

There's been a lot of countries focused on us lately (specially after the Summit of the Americas) but I still wanted to keep on sharing to make more people know about us. I'm not even a guy that usually shares videos and stuff so that must say a lot about this.

For the people that is not very good with english, the video has spanish subtitles too so don't worry.

Spoiler for In Spanish:
Este es un videos explicando la condición actual de Venezuela y por que tantas personas han estado emigrando. Habla de la corrupción del gobierno e incluso muestra una que otra cosa que ni yo sabía pero también habla de las protestas que empezaron en febrero de 2014 cuando la gente empezó a reclamar su libertad y sus derechos.

Es algo largo y está en inglés (aunque no pronunciado perfectamente porque es nuestro segundo idoma). Me pareció que valía la pena compartirlo y si cualquiera de ustedes hace lo mismo estaría bastante agradecido. Puede que Venezuela necesite ayuda internacional para ponerle fin a este caos porque dudo bastante que se pueda resolver pacíficamente.

Últimamente muchos países han estado atentos a lo que pasa en mi país (especialmente después de La Cumbre de las Américas) pero de todos modos quería compartir el video para que más gente supiera lo que pasa aquí. Ni siquiera soy una persona que normalmente comparte videos que le gustan, eso debe decir mucho de este.

Para los que no son muy buenos con el inglés, el video tiene subtítulos en español así que no se preocupen por eso.
I don't know what's scarier... the fact I'm living in the dawn of world war 3
or
The fact that my country's leader previously worshipped Chavez, made deals to transfer students with Cuba, practices mild communism, became a social ghost...
And made us think Venezuela and Cuba were the two most generous places on the earth....

I've got to share this... spread the news... educate the world
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2015, 06:52:21 AM »

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I don't know what's scarier... the fact I'm living in the dawn of world war 3
or
The fact that my country's leader previously worshipped Chavez, made deals to transfer students with Cuba, practices mild communism, became a social ghost...
And made us think Venezuela and Cuba were the two most generous places on the earth....

I've got to share this... spread the news... educate the world
Thanks m8

Where are you from? Chavez had what we call "labia" over here (and this is actually the first time I've typed the word or it might be misspelled). Don't know the literal translation but it's like a gift to convince people of doing stuff they don't really want to or that is actually bad for them.

Because of this "labia" he passed on the corruption throughout Latin America to turn the whole continent into being Cuba slaves but most of the countries are now getting rid of their corrupt presidents. Sadly the election results were changed because the vote difference was little so they just announced this guys as a president and not the actual winner; therefore we couldn't get rid of this government and now that an overwhelming mayority of us is against this guy they'll need to find a new candidate to win the people. Chaves' daughter or something crazy like that might work. Since they worship him as a God, his daughter could be the Messiah or something.

Still... gotta wait 4 more years for the next elections and I don't think we can last that long so we need to do something about it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2015, 06:59:40 AM »

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Where are you from? Chavez had what we call "labia" over here (and this is actually the first time I've typed the word or it might be misspelled). Don't know the literal translation but it's like a gift to convince people of doing stuff they don't really want to or that is actually bad for them.

Because of this "labia" he passed on the corruption throughout Latin America to turn the whole continent into being Cuba slaves but most of the countries are now getting rid of their corrupt presidents. Sadly the election results were changed because the vote difference was little so they just announced this guys as a president and not the actual winner; therefore we couldn't get rid of this government and now that an overwhelming mayority of us is against this guy they'll need to find a new candidate to win the people. Chaves' daughter or something crazy like that might work. Since they worship him as a God, his daughter could be the Messiah or something.

Still... gotta wait 4 more years for the next elections and I don't think we can last that long so we need to do something about it.
I'm from Dominica, the place is still unspoiled, but the corruption is clear to anyone who has a brain... Sadly, I'm not sure if most people in the country has a brain...
What kind of Prime Minister promises to give tablets to every school child in January, (he said that just before general elections) then randomly shuts up on the topic and gives no one anything.
What kind of Prime Minister, uses his wit to brainwash people into thinking that everything he does is "state of the art" or "for the good of the country"... But surely we aren't as corrupt as Venezuela... Yet...

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2015, 07:02:07 AM »

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I'm from Dominica, the place is still unspoiled, but the corruption is clear to anyone who has a brain... Sadly, I'm not sure if most people in the country has a brain...
What kind of Prime Minister promises to give tablets to every school child in January, (he said that just before general elections) then randomly shuts up on the topic and gives no one anything.
What kind of Prime Minister, uses his wit to brainwash people into thinking that everything he does is "state of the art" or "for the good of the country"... But surely we aren't as corrupt as Venezuela... Yet...

Carefull... That's how Chavez got where he was. Promises he never stayed true to.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 07:58:23 AM »

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Carefull... That's how Chavez got where he was. Promises he never stayed true to.

For sure Panama is corrupt too. How is it living there? I feel sorry for you, man.

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Dang,  that's some messed up stuff, bro.  It's ridiculous how much people complain about the American government here.  We certainly have issues, but in comparison to other nations, we're not really that bad.  I'm understanding more and more how blessed I am to be where I am.

Anyways, sorry to hear so much stuff is going on in your old home, bro.  As Umbrax said, God Bless.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2015, 08:17:05 AM »

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For sure Panama is corrupt too. How is it living there? I feel sorry for you, man.

God bless, man. God bless.

Well, Panama is a million and more times better than Venezuela. I don't think this country is corrupt and if it is, it's not gonna be affecting me anytime soon. I plan on studying here and then moving somewhere else anyway. From what I've heard, the last president made the country grow A LOT but the new one has slowed down the growth process a lot too so I don't know what to believe.

I just know that the economy is normal since the currency here is worth the same as the  US dolar (we actually use dolars and not the legal currency). Also, the country is way more secure and we actually have diversity when going to a market or a mall.

It's hot as naughtyword and I'm sweating all day long but it's worth it because of all the advantages of living here.

Dang,  that's some messed up stuff, bro.  It's ridiculous how much people complain about the American government here.  We certainly have issues, but in comparison to other nations, we're not really that bad.  I'm understanding more and more how blessed I am to be where I am.

Anyways, sorry to hear so much stuff is going on in your old home, bro.  As Umbrax said, God Bless.

I remember a friend traveled to the US once and was talking with a guy that was telling him "I'd trade you Bush for Chavez". That was a long time ago but he had no idea... Now it' even worse.
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I moved to Panama. Can't afford American universities :P
But American universities are so cheap.

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Well, Panama is a million and more times better than Venezuela. I don't think this country is corrupt and if it is, it's not gonna be affecting me anytime soon. I plan on studying here and then moving somewhere else anyway. From what I've heard, the last president made the country grow A LOT but the new one has slowed down the growth process a lot too so I don't know what to believe.

I just know that the economy is normal since the currency here is worth the same as the  US dolar (we actually use dolars and not the legal currency). Also, the country is way more secure and we actually have diversity when going to a market or a mall.

It's hot as popo and I'm sweating all day long but it's worth it because of all the advantages of living here.

I remember a friend traveled to the US once and was talking with a guy that was telling him "I'd trade you Bush for Chavez". That was a long time ago but he had no idea... Now it' even worse.

Isn't Venezula hot as s**t too? I visted there with my older brother and his girlfriend (and her family) about 10 years ago.
It was HOT. I know heat man, I live in Georgia (US state), but it was like a hot Georgia summer day, EVERY day!

Then again, if you lived in Caracas, it is rather cool for a South American city. That's good for you, Tofu. You are having a better life.




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My grandpa left morocco to rebuild the netherlands after world war 2

And my grandfather wasen't in WW2! XD
He was in the navy when he met my Italian grandmother.
She's so italian, and exactly what the sterotypes say.
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Isn't Venezula hot as s**t too? I visted there with my older brother and his girlfriend (and her family) about 10 years ago.
It was HOT. I know heat man, I live in Georgia (US state), but it was like a hot Georgia summer day, EVERY day!

Then again, if you lived in Caracas, it is rather cool for a South American city. That's good for you, Tofu. You are having a better life.

The heat depends a lot on where in Venezuela you are. Some years ago was massively hot but it got better... Not sure what was wrong there.



Everyone has interesting family migrations stories. Sucks to have to live the country you were born and raised at but sometimes it's necessary in order to have a better life.

Anyway, thanks for the support guys. I was just trying to help my country from over here by sharing the video to show people the life I had and the life many others still have to tolerate.

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Ojalá todos los majunches se largaran, ahora que no se meten toda la plata de PDVSA andan chillando. No voto pero si me obligaran, jamás lo haría por un "opositor", esa mierda ni existe en Venezuela. Andan es pendiente de tirar mierda y ver como matan chavistas.

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This is really interesing thread man.
But this shit happen not only in Venezuela look at Ucraine right now U.S. spend here 5 billion to overthrow Ukraine
Spoiler for Hidden:

Shit happen when you not accept U.S democracy.

You know U.S lose ground under legs they afraid of Russia and China, they have a lot of debts they have the biggest army in the world and someone need pay for this, they know that in next 5 years China will be number 1 and U.S can't accept this. You think that Russia takes the Crimea because they have nothing to do? They just know that NATO / U.S want to be more close to them... You know how to remove country debts? WAR, yep war, war removing the country debts.


Look at Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Portugal etc... a lot of young people leave their countries.
Shit happen in Italy and Greece crisis eating them, U.S & Japan bullying China, Islam eating Europe.

Russia is the first country which is not afraid of U.S and they don't give a popo about them they have powerfull army and alliance with China, good for them.


Also idk if you guys know man called John Titor if no i will say something about him but he talked about ww3 Russia vs U.S:

John Titor - The man who told the Internet he'd come from the Future!
On the 2nd of November in the year 2000, a user by the name ‘TimeTravel_0′ on the ‘Time Travel Institute Forums‘ began a thread that stated he was from the year 2036 and began answering users questions.
The user later revealed his real name to be John Titor as we know him today. He talks about how an American civil war from 2005-2015 will take place and end with Russia firing nuclear weapons onto America and the rest of the world starting world war 3.

You can read more about him in wikipedia etc...

You can meet him even in one anime: Steins;gate


The thing about John Titor no need to be truth but who know... Never say never and anyway it's interesting.
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Islam eating Europe.

Whats wrong with people converting to islam?

They not come to Europe for work, they come here for take free money, In Marseille (France) here is already more Arabic ppl than French, France in next few years will have Arabic president. Now look at Germany angry ppl out from home and they protest "stop islamisation" because they see that they come here just for free money, they always want something but they give nothing back they want ppl to respect islam but they not respect the coutry rules but it's not only arabic ppl fault the problem in half is on Europe side because they create this stupid system. I know that not all arabic ppl are bad, but most of them just live on social money.

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They not come to Europe for work, they come here for take free money, In Marseille (France) here is already more Arabic ppl than French, France in next few years will have Arabic president. Now look at Germany angry ppl out from home and they protest "stop islamisation" because they see that they come here just for free money, they always want something but they give nothing back they want ppl to respect islam but they not respect the coutry rules but it's not only arabic ppl fault the problem in half is on Europe side because they create this stupid system. I know that not all arabic ppl are bad, but most of them just live on social money.


Based on your argument it seems like the Chinese are taking over the world and we, Venezuelans are taking over Panama and yet no country (other than China) will have a Chinese president nor Panama will have a Venezuelan president. I doubt France will get conquered by Arabians either...

I don't really live in Europe and I'm not aware of how things are in other continents but I make my this arguments based on my continent's condition.
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Based on your argument it seems like the Chinese are taking over the world
You right in half, in half because Russia with China already building big asia just look at BRIC or AIIB.


I doubt France will get conquered by Arabians either...
I don't really live in Europe and I'm not aware of how things are in other continents but I make my this arguments based on my continent's condition.
I see, you don't see difference between France and Venezuela or Panama, thats why your arguments are bad.

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Why I had to leave my country
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2015, 11:29:20 AM »

    Offline Shyruni

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Not to be rude bros, but this is a thread about the existing crisis in Venezuela.  If you want to talk politics and world government that's fine, but make a separate thread or create PMs.  This thread was made to spread awareness about the various things going on Tofu's home, let's not distract ourselves from the issue on topic.
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Why I had to leave my country
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2015, 12:55:45 PM »

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Not to be rude bros, but this is a thread about the existing crisis in Venezuela.  If you want to talk politics and world government that's fine, but make a separate thread or create PMs.  This thread was made to spread awareness about the various things going on Tofu's home, let's not distract ourselves from the issue on topic.

Thanks Shyruni, @BadPicollo likes to change topics :P
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