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Old thread revisited: Funding, when and how?
« on: February 20, 2015, 08:10:01 AM »
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When all is said and done, you guys are an amazing team of developers, and as hardcore fans we want to maintain this team and this game. We definitely would want to know how to keep this game intact and it's developers working. It's true that money moves the world in the current day and it'd be unexpected for a couple of people to be sponsoring a server of this magnitude. Therefore I ask, how will the game receive it's funding?

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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 08:53:27 AM »

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ad revenue and donations? or just like dbo did it with cash shop
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 09:04:20 AM »

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It's all based on donations and ad revenue. This is a non-profit organisation so all money made will be used into funding the server. If no one donates for a momth, for example, then the server won't run. It is that simple.

People will be able to donate in due time.
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 09:09:17 AM »

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It's all based on donations and ad revenue. This is a non-profit organisation so all money made will be used into funding the server. If no one donates for a momth, for example, then the server won't run. It is that simple.

People will be able to donate in due time.
So when are we able to donate a month before release?
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 09:17:29 AM »

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So when are we able to donate a month before release?

Luke knows the answer to that. But I imagine it would be before release, from obvious reasons.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 09:23:17 AM »

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I believe you guys will have more than enough money to support the server with donations alone!

But here's some questions I would like to know the answer for.

What if there's extra money? Do you guys put it towards the following month?

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2015, 09:28:46 AM »

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I believe you guys will have more than enough money to support the server with donations alone!

But here's some questions I would like to know the answer for.

What if there's extra money? Do you guys put it towards the following month?
That would be the best plan. To put it in some sort of Emergency Fund or use it for the next month's payment.

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 09:29:58 AM »

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I believe you guys will have more than enough money to support the server with donations alone!

But here's some questions I would like to know the answer for.

What if there's extra money? Do you guys put it towards the following month?

It has to done that way. A non-profit organisation means no wage/salaries/payments of any kind are acceptable to be given to the staff.

Here's an example; A server costs $100 per month, DBOR gets $300 worth of donations when it opens up. This means the donations will cover 3 months of server hosting.
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It has to done that way. A non-profit organisation means no wage/salaries/payments of any kind are acceptable to be given to the staff.

Here's an example; A server costs $100 per month, DBOR gets $300 worth of donations when it opens up. This means the donations will cover 3 months of server hosting.
Im 100% sure Dbor can atleast get  $1000 in the first few months.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 04:15:36 PM »
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It's a good idea but logically, you shouldn't depend on just donations, yes non profit organisation should have 0 net profit balance sheet, but hardly seems to be a good idea to just rely on donations, as it's not a fixed monthly income and may vary from month to month. Although, prodding if we hit the benchmark of let's say 1-2 years of hosting the game and maintenance costs before the game is out should be plenty.

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It's a good idea but logically, you shouldn't depend on just donations, yes non profit organisation should have 0 net profit balance sheet, but hardly seems to be a good idea to just rely on donations, as it's not a fixed monthly income and may vary from month to month. Although, prodding if we hit the benchmark of let's say 1-2 years of hosting the game and maintenance costs before the game is out should be plenty.

There are no other means of acquiring funding. The rights are owned by Akira Toyiama so DBOR has to be non-profit. This is a mere server emulation using the code developed by the team.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2015, 04:22:44 PM »
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There are different means of profit that may contain dissent unrelated stuff, for example, premium membership. Since it will be bound to the forums, technically you're not putting money towards the game itself. There are work arounds but naturally for a big project like this, you will need a good capital to work with.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2015, 04:37:19 PM »

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Srsly tho this is some major naughtyword. Ad revenue should be more than enough to cover the development costs.
Unfortunately AD Revenue only just barely pays for website hosting per month.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2015, 05:08:00 PM »

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Unfortunately AD Revenue only just barely pays for website hosting per month.
So unfortunately the server will be 100% dependent on the donations of us, the gamers. So if we wanna play, we have so sacrifice our new Consoles for the betterment of this server. I would hate for it to be buried again.

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Although I am not rich, I am still willing to donate money to support the game : )


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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2015, 06:58:32 PM »

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Sounds like that would be on your shoulders, not the players.
How so?
If you mean, should i pay for the web hosting when it doesn't make enough? because i did, and do.
Just in this point and time, ad revenue is fairly unreliable.

The way in which you worded it sounds almost like a threat. Give us donations or else you'll never be able to play your precious dbor. Last time I checked, this was supposed to be COMPLETELY non-profit. Otherwise it'd be, you know, illegal.

there is a fine line between threats and being blunt.
If we can't pay for the server, then we can't run it, it's as simple as that.
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Something smells fishy here...

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I will donate to play if each person donate 1 dollar thats enough because we are 1000's of players. So that wouldnt cost much for each person. just in case show how much is donated so people can know how much they need to donate and even better let us know when each bill is paid.

like if we have 1000 dollars then each bill that gets paid it will decrease lets say with a 100, then we have donate 900 dollar.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2015, 09:43:36 PM »
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The financial overview aspect should have been planned for pre- game release. Do you have a financial advisor? And as you have said, for a non profit organisation you will have to release annually a balance sheet showing your total income and expenditure through the organisation. If you wish for any financial support I may be of service, however at the current case, I highly suggest fixing an amount of money for the servers.

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If you're planning to play without donating a single buck, we can't be friends...

Jk but seriously we're lucky to have these people put in so much effort just so we can all play DBO again. The least we can do is donate. If we don't donate, well, then it won't last long.

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This is some major naughtyword. Ad revenue should be more than enough to cover the development costs. The way in which you worded it sounds almost like a threat. Give us donations or else you'll never be able to play your precious dbor. Last time I checked, this was supposed to be COMPLETELY non-profit. Otherwise it'd be, you know, illegal.
This is not Youtube. Adsense barely pays per clicks. As Dumke said, I imagined it barely paid for the website. And it's true, if they can't pay the server, they definitely shouldn't pay it out of their pockets when we're all gonna try to play it. It's pretty selfish to do.

I guess you cannot force everyone to think the same way, but you can force everyone to believe in the same objective.

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You guys are missing the point, Donations are by all means NOT a reliable source of funding. Besides, we still have no idea about how much the server is going to cost monthly or annually.

In addition to adrevenue, I can think of plenty of ways to earn money from players without spending anything on the game. It's just a matter of implementing them.
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A rich ass guy will show up and just give enough money for 20 years of server.
I have some plans

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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2015, 10:21:43 PM »
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That seems like a really bad plan that could easily backfire.

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Obviously if players are donating and receiving items in game (Preferably exclusive consumables, and other stuff), people will continue to donate. They way I see it and so will DBOR is, if you  want to give DBOR something, DBOR will give you something in return. It keeps the players happy and the game alive, simple as that.