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« on: December 24, 2014, 01:54:46 PM »

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I'd like to know what characters or things in DB irritate you.








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I really wish Tien got to be much more than he is.

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2014, 02:06:07 PM »

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Also, I hated Chaozu.

...I hate Chaozu so much.


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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2014, 02:08:30 PM »

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Goten and Trunks growing up became  a disappointment

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2014, 02:10:53 PM »
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At first, I thought Hercule was a total waste, but once I learned that he's basically the ONLY CHARACTER TO NOT DIE ONCE (DBZ AND GT) as well as the ONLY HUMAN TO NOT GET KILLED BY MAJIN BUU I've grown to like him.

Goten and Trunks growing up became  a disappointment
They followed Gohan's shoes. Per shame...at least Pan showed promise. Also, wtf with Bra? She's a girly twoshoes who also happens to be HALF-SAYAIN. Wasted potential...

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Goten and Trunks growing up became  a disappointment
Goten and kid trunks always sucked.

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At first, I thought Hercule was a total waste, but once I learned that he's basically the ONLY CHARACTER TO NOT DIE ONCE (DBZ AND GT) as well as the ONLY HUMAN TO NOT GET KILLED BY MAJIN BUU I've grown to like him.
They followed Gohan's shoes. Per shame...at least Pan showed promise. Also, wtf with Bra? She's a girly twoshoes who also happens to be HALF-SAYAIN. Wasted potential...
Yeah! That too, Bra shouldve been badass....

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Goten and kid trunks always sucked.
At least they both liked to fight and be saiyans !!(or half saiyans ......)

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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2014, 02:14:03 PM »
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Of course, to be fair, Akira Toriyama wasn't really good with utilizing female characters very well. It's pretty much why we never seen him design a Super Saiyan look for females.

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Ah, it's time for the grand list of things I hate about Dragon Ball.

1. The Majority of the Fandom: My God, Dragon Ball has the most insufferable anime fandom this way of Naruto. DBOR isn't actually that bad as a site, but whenever I look at other places, all I see is people who want to discuss POWAH LEVULZ and other things like that. Maybe I wanted to talk about things like the characters, or the art, or just... something else. They're also exceptionally ignorant as a collective.

2. Overrepresentation of Saiyans: Because I actually liked other characters that were more or less shafted to make way for blonde monkeys. The spotlight hogging is bad enough, but more recent Dragon Ball media has kind of rubbed salt in the wounds through things like the utterly unnecessary Episode of Bardock and Dragon Ball Minus. Kind of wish they'd do side story type things like that about other characters.

3. Fans and Vegeta: It's not actually that I hate Vegeta as much as the fan reaction to him. They put him on a pedestal and play him up as a total badass while ignoring that he's often the cause of a lot of the major problems in the story (*coughCellcough*) and is, under the surface, very insecure and hides behind a superiority complex. He's an interesting character, but I don't think most fans understand why.

4. Most Video Games: Because they tend to be boring, repetitive rehashes of the same content over and over. They're getting better at not doing that, granted, but still.

5. Broli: Does this need to be explained? Really? He had three movies. He's pushed into every video game as the strongest character by default. He has a legion of fanboys with less brain cells than a Hulk fan, and let me tell you, that's impressive.

Of course, to be fair, Akira Toriyama wasn't really good with utilizing female characters very well. It's pretty much why we never seen him design a Super Saiyan look for females.

I can't entirely agree with this. I think the fact that there aren't any female Super Saiyans has more to do with it being a series targeted toward, well, boys. Bulma was a very well written character, especially at the beginning, even if she never had a combat role. His work with stuff like Dr. Slump strikes me as proof that it's not like he's incompetent writing female characters as much as he recognizes that this is, first and foremost, a series for boys. And there's nothing wrong with that.


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1. Oh god, and don't even get me started on their creativity. *shivers* Hopefully I'm not on that list of yours.

2. Yeah I can agree with Episode of Bardock, but I kinda felt Dragonball Minus was needed considering Bardock's first special wasn't done by Akira himself and people wanted to know about Goku's mom instead of dealing with...fan versions.

3. I actually didn't know that. Guess I need to surf more. lol

4. Agreed. It's one of the reasons why I'm so hyped for Xenoverse.

5. I have mixed feelings with Broli. On one hand, I love the idea of a Super Saiyan who's a bad guy and somewhat fits the situation with the legend and all. On the other hand...yeah you pretty much pointed it out, though I like to add they are REALLY milking his LSSJ form. SSJ3, Majin, SSJ4? Really?

I can't entirely agree with this. I think the fact that there aren't any female Super Saiyans has more to do with it being a series targeted toward, well, boys. Bulma was a very well written character, especially at the beginning, even if she never had a combat role. His work with stuff like Dr. Slump strikes me as proof that it's not like he's incompetent writing female characters as much as he recognizes that this is, first and foremost, a series for boys. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Okay you made a good point there.

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There isn't really a character I didn't like in Dragon Ball...as for things, the numerous ammount of unnecesary filler episodes that were between the main story arc. Thank Kami for Dragon Ball Z Kai.

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I hate how Gohan became in Buu saga, I mean, since Radish appeared he was stronger than Goku when he was raging and until Cell it was ok. Then he became useless, even with the Mystic form he didn't do much because Buu saga is the fusions saga. I didn't like Goten and Trunks to get their ssj forms like nothing and how they achieved ssj3 form too with Gotenks. Another thing is that other ZFighters were left too behind like they gived up op training. Piccolo was a great warrior but he disappeared after he gused with Kami.

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i hate kids trunks lol . like a lot  . selfish cocky kid . He shoulda been like the future trunks

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The fact that Vegeta never really shined. Like Goku always got everything and did everything. Even when he didn't defeat cell he still seemed like the hero. I have always liked Vegeta way better than Goku. Give Vegeta some shine time man.
    
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The fact that Vegeta never really shined. Like Goku always got everything and did everything. Even when he didn't defeat cell he still seemed like the hero. I have always liked Vegeta way better than Goku. Give Vegeta some shine time man.

Eh, I don't really see anything worth getting bent out of shape over here. I mean, no one other than Goku and Gohan has ever defeated the main antagonist of a story arc. What automatically makes Vegeta more important than Kuririn, Tenshinhan, or Piccolo? Before Vegeta was introduced, they all played second fiddle to Goku before and they've also never gotten the honors to defeat the bad guy. Out of everyone else in the series, I think Vegeta actually gets to do the most in this regard, offing a lot of the villains on Namek. That's better than what most other characters get. He still gets more limelight after his introduction than anyone other than Gohan.


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Eh, I don't really see anything worth getting bent out of shape over here. I mean, no one other than Goku and Gohan has ever defeated the main antagonist of a story arc. What automatically makes Vegeta more important than Kuririn, Tenshinhan, or Piccolo? Before Vegeta was introduced, they all played second fiddle to Goku before and they've also never gotten the honors to defeat the bad guy. Out of everyone else in the series, I think Vegeta actually gets to do the most in this regard, offing a lot of the villains on Namek. That's better than what most other characters get. He still gets more limelight after his introduction than anyone other than Gohan.

Ok well actually. Why do sayians always have to save the day. Why can't Picollo or Yamcha get a ridiculous power boost?
    
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Ok well actually. Why do sayians always have to save the day. Why can't Picollo or Yamcha get a ridiculous power boost?

This was one of my annoyances with the anime/manga. I really wanted an actual HUMAN to save earth... Like so many shows, the 'gifted' characters were used as a crutch and everyone else slowly had no relevance.

I was going to rant on about the key visual inconsistences in the anime, but I'll leave that for another time.

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Ok well actually. Why do sayians always have to save the day. Why can't Picollo or Yamcha get a ridiculous power boost?

Piccolo does get two ridiculous power boosts and he still manages to stay in the game longer than anyone other than Saiyan characters. At that point, though, the Saiyan characters get some more magical power-up -- Vegeta gets his Majin/Prince of Destruction thing, Gohan gets a magical power-up, and Gotenks and Vegetto are fusions. Even if he's not a combatant during the Boo arc, Piccolo still helps out by doing things like stalling for time and acting as the strategist.

With humans? I have no idea. Maybe it has something to do with catering to popularity among fans, but I'll agree that it's among my annoyances.


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Piccolo does get two ridiculous power boosts and he still manages to stay in the game longer than anyone other than Saiyan characters. At that point, though, the Saiyan characters get some more magical power-up -- Vegeta gets his Majin/Prince of Destruction thing, Gohan gets a magical power-up, and Gotenks and Vegetto are fusions. Even if he's not a combatant during the Boo arc, Piccolo still helps out by doing things like stalling for time and acting as the strategist.

With humans? I have no idea. Maybe it has something to do with catering to popularity among fans, but I'll agree that it's among my annoyances.

OK but Vegeta majin thing isn't a "ridiculous power up" he was being a controlled. Towa does the same thing.
    
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OK but Vegeta majin thing isn't a "ridiculous power up" he was being a controlled. Towa does the same thing.

That's not accurate, either.
Babidi released Vegeta's potential (allowing him to transform into a SSJ2). Vegeta just pretended to be under Babidi's control because he wanted to fight Goku.
Technically, Majin Vegeta was just SSJ2 Vegeta with a fancy tattoo on his head, despite the games trying to make them separate forms frequently.


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i dn't like mr satan but if it wasn't for him going wouldn't have gone ssj 2 and the people on earth wouldn't give their energy to goku.