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« on: November 08, 2014, 03:46:57 AM »

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2844933/ubisoft-pulls-assassins-creed-unity-far-cry-4-and-the-crew-from-steam.html

All of the older titles are still there but everything else is gone. And then they magically turned up on origin >.>

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 03:57:51 AM »

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Ubisoft games suck nowadays anyway.

Last good ubisoft game I remember playing is this:



That's subjective, and completely besides the point. Digital distribution through Steam has been a force for good in PC gaming because all the different companies used it. You only needed one program and one storefront for all your games and save data, only one friends list, and then EA pulled shit and started their Origin service, a lot of different companies have their own 3rd party software you need to even play the game (like uPlay) and now Ubisoft has pulled their games off of steam, possibly to jump ship to origin or start their own storefront and give me yet another program I'd have to download.

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 04:07:41 AM »

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I've heard Origin is really temperamental.


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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 06:11:39 AM »

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I don't really know anything about steam (as I've never used it myself), but does it have anything to do with this?





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Ik, both of them are insufferable but it gets the point across without me needing to write a wall of text.

That's an unrelated matter.

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2014, 07:32:10 AM »

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That's subjective, and completely besides the point. Digital distribution through Steam has been a force for good in PC gaming because all the different companies used it. You only needed one program and one storefront for all your games and save data, only one friends list, and then EA pulled shit and started their Origin service, a lot of different companies have their own 3rd party software you need to even play the game (like uPlay) and now Ubisoft has pulled their games off of steam, possibly to jump ship to origin or start their own storefront and give me yet another program I'd have to download.

While on one hand you can say it's a force for good, it's also worth mentioning that Steam has a borderline monopoly when it comes to the digital market for games. While that may not seem bad on the surface, I'd point out that there are a lot of rumors of corruption in things like the review boards for indie games to see which ones make it onto Steam's marketplace, which in turn can hurt developers trying to publish their games. While you can offer a game through another service, Steam pretty much rules the digital marketplace and it hurts a lot to not have your title on there.

I don't see what the problem with Ubisoft using a different distributor for their PC games is. While it might be irritating for the customer as someone who exclusively uses Steam, a lot of people already have to put up with purchasing multiple consoles for exclusives, so why is using different services to download games suddenly a huge issue? It's a hell of a lot more convenient than it is to switch between consoles.


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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2014, 07:45:09 AM »

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“We've been in discussions with Valve about Assassin's Creed Unity but for the time being the game is not available via Steam in the UK,”

"All three games appear to be back in the U.S. version of Steam, though Ars Technica reports they're still missing from the U.S. store."

It's only in the UK. OP didn't even read the article.

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 08:18:14 AM »

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“We've been in discussions with Valve about Assassin's Creed Unity but for the time being the game is not available via Steam in the UK,”

"All three games appear to be back in the U.S. version of Steam, though Ars Technica reports they're still missing from the U.S. store."

It's only in the UK. OP didn't even read the article.

Except it said UPDATE on the page, which means it may not have been there before, when he posted.
Not only that, but it says they're still missing from the US store, so it's not only in the UK. People who already have the game(s) are fine, but those who haven't purchased them are assed out.


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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2014, 08:22:31 AM »

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“We've been in discussions with Valve about Assassin's Creed Unity but for the time being the game is not available via Steam in the UK,”

"All three games appear to be back in the U.S. version of Steam, though Ars Technica reports they're still missing from the U.S. store."

It's only in the UK. OP didn't even read the article.

Except it said UPDATE on the page, which means it may not have been there before, when he posted.
Not only that, but it says they're still missing from the US store, so it's not only in the UK. People who already have the game(s) are fine, but those who haven't purchased them are assed out.

You ninja'd me.

Yeah, when I first read the article that was not there.

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 08:23:51 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2014, 08:26:56 AM »

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Except it said UPDATE on the page, which means it may not have been there before, when he posted.
Not only that, but it says they're still missing from the US store, so it's not only in the UK. People who already have the game(s) are fine, but those who haven't purchased them are assed out.

The first quote wasn't apart of the update. And the update even confirms that they're back on the US store.

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2014, 08:30:35 AM »

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The first quote wasn't apart of the update. And the update even confirms that they're back on the US store.

But they WERE pulled from the US store and the first quote does absolutely nothing to explain why it was gone from the US store. Think before you speak.

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2014, 08:36:11 AM »

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But they WERE pulled from the US store and the first quote does absolutely nothing to explain why it was gone from the US store. Think before you speak.
What's your point with this thread then? You're just spreading misinformation if you're going to act like Ubisoft games are gone globally.

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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2014, 08:52:55 AM »

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While on one hand you can say it's a force for good, it's also worth mentioning that Steam has a borderline monopoly when it comes to the digital market for games. While that may not seem bad on the surface, I'd point out that there are a lot of rumors of corruption in things like the review boards for indie games to see which ones make it onto Steam's marketplace, which in turn can hurt developers trying to publish their games. While you can offer a game through another service, Steam pretty much rules the digital marketplace and it hurts a lot to not have your title on there.

I don't see what the problem with Ubisoft using a different distributor for their PC games is. While it might be irritating for the customer as someone who exclusively uses Steam, a lot of people already have to put up with purchasing multiple consoles for exclusives, so why is using different services to download games suddenly a huge issue? It's a hell of a lot more convenient than it is to switch between consoles.

Go watch Extra Cedits the youtube channel about Steam being "crowded" right now. They are one of my favorite youtubers from 2008, and they inspired MatPat to make game theory.

Honestly, no matter how bad Steam gets, Unusuals will always be a crap ton of mon- I MEAN, they will always be good games on Steam. Steam is a good hub atleast for right now.

Also, Ubisoft's PC ports are (mostly) crap anyways.




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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2014, 08:57:33 AM »

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What's your point with this thread then? You're just spreading misinformation if you're going to act like Ubisoft games are gone globally.

Do I really have to explain this or are you capable of piecing together a sequence of events that makes sense on your own in that lump of mush you call a brain?

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2014, 09:05:52 AM »

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Do I really have to explain this or are you capable of piecing together a sequence of events that makes sense on your own in that lump of mush you call a brain?


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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2014, 09:13:32 AM »

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Calling you an idiot for not seeing what's right in front of you is not an ad hominem attack, but if I must.

1- Read article
2- Post article
3- Discuss article
4- Hours later an update gets posted in the article
5- Dumbass points out the update and acts like I didn't read article
6- Dumbass damage controls his stupidity by trying to win an argument he already lost

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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2014, 09:20:25 AM »

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1- Read article
2- Post article
3- Discuss article
4- Hours later an update gets posted in the article
5- Dumbass points out the update and acts like I didn't read article
6- Dumbass damage controls his stupidity by trying to win an argument he already lost

The point I referenced wasn't even from the naughtyword update.

We've been in discussions with Valve about Assassin's Creed Unity but for the time being the game is not available via Steam in the UK,”

“... for the time being the game is not available via Steam in the UK,”

“... not available via Steam in the UK,”

“... UK,”

I'll make sure to underline the quote too if you still can't read it.

Calling you an idiot for not seeing what's right in front of you is not an ad hominem attack, but if I must.

That's the definition of ad hominem.

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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2014, 09:27:43 AM »

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The point I referenced wasn't even from the naughtyword update.

We've been in discussions with Valve about Assassin's Creed Unity but for the time being the game is not available via Steam in the UK,”

“... for the time being the game is not available via Steam in the UK,”

“... not available via Steam in the UK,”

“... UK,”

I'll make sure to underline the quote too if you still can't read it.

I've already covered that. It got removed from the US store and that quote does nothing to explain why. The update was put in later to say the US store has the games back.

That's the definition of ad hominem.

No. No it's not. Ad hominem is the use of solely insults to disregard someone's argument. There was an obvious implied suggestion that there was a sequence of events you're ignoring and that you should think about it, and THEN I called you an idiot. That's not ad hominem, that's just being rude. I'm rude, deal with it.

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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2014, 09:39:31 AM »

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I've already covered that. It got removed from the US store and that quote does nothing to explain why. The update was put in later to say the US store has the games back.

It doesn't help that this article is a day late. This happened yesterday.

No. No it's not. Ad hominem is the use of solely insults to disregard someone's argument. There was an obvious implied suggestion that there was a sequence of events you're ignoring and that you should think about it, and THEN I called you an idiot. That's not ad hominem, that's just being rude. I'm rude, deal with it.

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ad+hominem

Ad hominem -attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

It was an ad hominem.

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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2014, 09:50:51 AM »

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While on one hand you can say it's a force for good, it's also worth mentioning that Steam has a borderline monopoly when it comes to the digital market for games. While that may not seem bad on the surface, I'd point out that there are a lot of rumors of corruption in things like the review boards for indie games to see which ones make it onto Steam's marketplace, which in turn can hurt developers trying to publish their games. While you can offer a game through another service, Steam pretty much rules the digital marketplace and it hurts a lot to not have your title on there.

I don't see what the problem with Ubisoft using a different distributor for their PC games is. While it might be irritating for the customer as someone who exclusively uses Steam, a lot of people already have to put up with purchasing multiple consoles for exclusives, so why is using different services to download games suddenly a huge issue? It's a hell of a lot more convenient than it is to switch between consoles.

My theory is, since steam is a monopoly maybe this move by Ubisoft might open up the market to be more competitive. It all comes down to consumer preference, a lot of people play Ubisoft games, the Assassins Creed series being the most popular. Steam has little to no substitutes and it's quite difficult to compete with them. I find this move by Ubisoft interesting and it's more than likely Origin will increase it's users. Who knows, in the future we may see a duopoly between Origin and Steam.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2014, 09:51:05 AM »

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It doesn't help that this article is a day late. This happened yesterday.

Are you really going to bring the speed in which information reaches the public into this? Because that is completely irrelevant.

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ad+hominem

Ad hominem -attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

It was an ad hominem.

No. No it's not. Ad hominem is the use of solely insults to disregard someone's argument. There was an obvious implied suggestion that there was a sequence of events you're ignoring and that you should think about it, and THEN I called you an idiot. That's not ad hominem, that's just being rude. I'm rude, deal with it.

My implied suggestion in the post was my answer to your argument. If anything it's the "Judgemental Language" Red Herring. That is not the same as ad hominem.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2014, 10:04:17 AM »

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Are you really going to bring the speed in which information reaches the public into this? Because that is completely irrelevant.

You're assuming a lot there. But yes, this information was released publicly yesterday. I even spoke about it on the shoutbox. Either way, Ubisoft came out and stated that the UK would only be affected.

In my opinion, this movement towards Uplay is probably going to make piracy a more viable option.

My implied suggestion in the post was my answer to your argument. If anything it's the "Judgemental Language" Red Herring. That is not the same as ad hominem.

You're probably right about the red herring.

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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2014, 10:13:00 AM »

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You're assuming a lot there. But yes, this information was released publicly yesterday. I even spoke about it on the shoutbox. Either way, Ubisoft came out and stated that the UK would only be affected.

In my opinion, this movement towards Uplay is probably going to make piracy a more viable option.

You're probably right about the red herring.

And I think here is a good place to end this. Since the update got pointed out there has been no actual discussion about it, it's just been you and me.