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« on: November 05, 2014, 08:25:41 AM »

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Hey, why do you think Goku,Vegeta, and Gohan, stooped using Super saiyan 2? As you can see in the series, it was not used much. I ask this because it is my favorite ssj form :P

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2014, 09:04:42 AM »

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Because there was Super Saiyan 3. Gohan used Super Saiyan 2 more than anyone I think.

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2014, 09:06:45 AM »

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Well Akira toriyama said he was gonna try and not use SSJ 2 or 3 much anymore and focus on Super saiyan. Because Super saiyan Whether no one wants to believe this, is when goku was at his strongest. Atleast that's what akira said.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2014, 09:13:05 AM »

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Though it's never really touched on in the series, SSJ2 causes you to hemorrhage Ki, just like SSJ3 (albeit not quite to the same extent).

Goku apparently realizes this following Battle of Gods (he wasn't even consciously using the normal Super-Saiyajin form during the fight with Beerus), and it seems Vegeta may have realized it before Goku.
As for Gohan, he has his Mystic upgrade, which renders his SSJ forms useless.


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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 09:48:29 AM »

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Because its all inconsistent and Toriyama makes up everything on the fly. Chances are, Toriyama just did what he felt like doing.

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 09:56:03 AM »
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Though it's never really touched on in the series, SSJ2 causes you to hemorrhage Ki, just like SSJ3 (albeit not quite to the same extent).

Goku apparently realizes this following Battle of Gods (he wasn't even consciously using the normal Super-Saiyajin form during the fight with Beerus), and it seems Vegeta may have realized it before Goku.
As for Gohan, he has his Mystic upgrade, which renders his SSJ forms useless.
That probably also explains why Gotenks didn't go Super Saiyan 3 during his short spar with Beerus. That, or he was being too cocky as always.

Anyway, yeah I believe that Super Saiyan 2 has been deemed useless due to Mystic, Super Saiyan 3, and the most recent power up from Super Saiyan God.

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 11:20:35 AM »

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Though it's never really touched on in the series, SSJ2 causes you to hemorrhage Ki, just like SSJ3 (albeit not quite to the same extent).

Goku apparently realizes this following Battle of Gods (he wasn't even consciously using the normal Super-Saiyajin form during the fight with Beerus), and it seems Vegeta may have realized it before Goku.

 They kinda touched on the higher forms of super saiyan using too much ki when Goku said he couldn't stay SSJ 3 that long. I bet AT stopped using SSJ3 because SSJ 1 is most recognizable to the average person, like a trademark of DBZ. SSJ 3 was always sort of silly the way they lost their eyebrows and hair growing so long ;D

Also I remember them using SSJ 2 a lot towards the end of the series.

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 11:24:59 AM »
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Super Saiyan 2 wasn't really that bad when it came to the ki drainage (unlike Super Saiyan 3). Of course now that Goku obtained a power boost and is able to hold his own against a freaken God in mere Super Saiyan we probably won't be seeing the higher levels much anymore. Really the only person who would use Super Saiyan 3 anymore is Gotenks since Vegeta will most likely be the next person to get a power boost, but even that is debatable atm.

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 11:31:14 AM »

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I'm really hoping Vegeta goes SSJ 3 in this new movie, even though SSJ 3 doesn't really matter anymore, I just want him to do it! :(

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2014, 11:33:00 AM »

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I'm really hoping Vegeta goes SSJ 3 in this new movie, even though SSJ 3 doesn't really matter anymore, I just want him to do it! :(

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2014, 11:50:10 AM »

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Though it's never really touched on in the series, SSJ2 causes you to hemorrhage Ki, just like SSJ3 (albeit not quite to the same extent).

Goku apparently realizes this following Battle of Gods (he wasn't even consciously using the normal Super-Saiyajin form during the fight with Beerus), and it seems Vegeta may have realized it before Goku.
As for Gohan, he has his Mystic upgrade, which renders his SSJ forms useless.

I feel like focusing on SSJ1 is a welcomed change to me since Buu Saga was so focused on New Transformations (Not saying it was bad, I loved the buu arc) and BOTD had SSJG too. It could be cool having Goku only going SSJ against Frieza in the new movie.




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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2014, 01:20:34 PM »

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I feel like focusing on SSJ1 is a welcomed change to me since Buu Saga was so focused on New Transformations (Not saying it was bad, I loved the buu arc) and BOTD had SSJG too. It could be cool having Goku only going SSJ against Frieza in the new movie.

I'd agree. It'd actually bring a nostalgic sense to it if anything seeing as Goku did defeat Frieza in SSJ1 form anyway.

Yeah I think SSJ2/SSJ3 will be seen less and less due to the overall ki consumption. That and Toriyama was/is too lazy to draw all that detailed hair for SSJ3.
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2014, 02:48:47 PM »

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Well i mean it is battle of gods so we still need gods. I think that it will be 3 or 4 years from battle of gods and it will be Bulma birthday again. (I say that because beerus slept for 3 years) He will come back and join together. Shit will happen but now this time since pan and maybe Bulla will be born thenbthey can also give energy to Vegeta to become a ssj god. I say Vegeta because he told Goku next time they get a chance he was gonna be the one to be ssj god and Goku said ok.
    
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2014, 10:21:46 AM »

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I'm really hoping Vegeta goes SSJ 3 in this new movie, even though SSJ 3 doesn't really matter anymore, I just want him to do it! :(

Would be cool too see as they have this transformation in a few DB games now .

I don't think it will be in the next movie though , I'm sure Vegeta eventually reaches this level before he dies . But who knows we didn't write the story unfortunately

Ssj2 was always my favourite transformation, with the lightning and sharper looking hair it was just raw power .  But I agree that ssj1 should have been the strongest as it was the only transformation they could learn to truly control and build on
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2014, 10:25:52 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2014, 10:33:25 AM »

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Would be cool too see as they have this transformation in a few DB games now .

I don't think it will be in the next movie though , I'm sure Vegeta eventually reaches this level before he dies . But who knows we didn't write the story unfortunately

Ssj2 was always my favourite transformation, with the lightning and sharper looking hair it was just raw power .  But I agree that ssj1 should have been the strongest as it was the only transformation they could learn to truly control and build on

I feel like Vegeta should get a new tranformation this time, while Goku stays SSJ1.

Maybe the Z Warriors could actually fight and s**t because believe it or, Tien and Piccolo are actually pretty strong.




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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2014, 03:31:32 PM »

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I feel like Vegeta should get a new tranformation this time, while Goku stays SSJ1.

Maybe the Z Warriors could actually fight and s**t because believe it or, Tien and Piccolo are actually pretty strong.

This might be a stupid question but is Tien stronger than Krillin? I ask this because I remember someone somewhere stating that Krillin is the strongest human on earth.
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2014, 03:38:57 PM »

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This might be a stupid question but is Tien stronger than Krillin? I ask this because I remember someone somewhere stating that Krillin is the strongest human on earth.

I think Tenshinhan is the stronger one. Kuririn was referred to as "the strongest human" by Yamcha once during the Tenkaichi Budokai (just before Buu appeared), but what does Yamcha know? He's Yamcha!

Jokes aside, Kuririn stopped training after the battle with Cell, while Tenshinhan has never stopped, and he's generally been stronger (except for maybe the Freeza saga, when Kaio-sama pulled out Kuririn's potential).
So, yes... I think Tenshinhan is the stronger one.


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^ i agree although it is generally stated krillin is stronger, but in my mind tien holding off an incomplete cell with his tribeam kinda proves otherwise
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Well if we are counting all humans then ima say Android 18 is the strongest. Sure she was a android but she human now.
    
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2014, 11:14:13 AM »

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Well if we are counting all humans then ima say Android 18 is the strongest. Sure she was a android but she human now.

She's not an android or a human. She's a cyborg, a human who has been modified with cybernetic implants.
The term "android" was just a poor choice in the dub, as she's not an artificial construct.

And where did you get the idea she's human now?
Shenron explicitly stated that he COULD NOT turn her back into a human.


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She's not an android or a human. She's a cyborg, a human who has been modified with cybernetic implants.
The term "android" was just a poor choice in the dub, as she's not an artificial construct.

And where did you get the idea she's human now?
Shenron explicitly stated that he COULD NOT turn her back into a human.

Oh i thought he just turned into a human never mind.
    
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2014, 11:20:06 AM »

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Oh i thought he just turned into a human never mind.

Nope. All he could do was remove the bomb Dr. Gero implanted in her.

I know, Shenron ain't all he's cracked up to be, is he? :P


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Nope. All he could do was remove the bomb Dr. Gero implanted in her.

I know, Shenron ain't all he's cracked up to be, is he? :P

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Did you see how bad he got scared of Lord Beerus in Battle of Gods. I almost died of laghter
that was funny lol
I just couldn't stop laughing after seeing how scared he was

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