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« on: October 28, 2014, 09:09:30 AM »
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Um I know people that it takes them like three months to crack a game and get it playing on private servers. Why is it you guys don't even have a registration page that is actually working and up? Plus you don't don't even have a pre alpha version playable for the public or even download links. Also it's quite illegal what you're doing anyway. I am surprised you aren't shut down lol. So where is your working version?

This is not a threat this is simply asking questions.

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 09:11:31 AM »

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they are not cracking it they are building it from the ground up so it takes a while
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 09:12:29 AM »
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The reason is because those other games used the games original clients this group is making their own and not using old versions like other private servers who are trying to bring the game back.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 09:15:33 AM »
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No no it's illegal to build a video game or anything based on copyrighted material no matter what it is if you or I aren't the actual owners or given contract rights to do so. I am very surprised that Toei Animation or Toriyama's laywers and other people or even FUNimation haven't shut you guys down. Have you guys received cease and desist letters yet or threats from lawyers or whatever?

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No no it's illegal to build a video game or anything based on copyrighted material no matter what it is if you or I aren't the actual owners or given contract rights to do so. I am very surprised that Toei Animation or Toriyama's laywers and other people or even FUNimation haven't shut you guys down. Have you guys received cease and desist letters yet or threats from lawyers or whatever?
They are making there own clients and stuff so they are doing nothing wrong
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 09:20:11 AM »

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FUNImation would have nothing to do with it, since it's based entirely off the manga. FUNI only holds the license for the anime.

Also, it's unlikely Toei or Toriyama would ever do this, since in Japan doujinshi based off existing properties is frequently sold, and very rarely punished legally, as the creators consider it to basically be free advertising.

Also, as they aren't making any money off this game, and there is no official paid version, it's unlikely they're going to get into any trouble.


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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2014, 09:21:01 AM »
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Nope the people who owned the original game said that it would be impossible for anyone to remake the game I'm pretty sure. Plus it seems that you want this project to shutdown and for people who have been waiting to no longer have the hope that the game will return.
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Lol money or not, not many people are actually informed on the laws at least in the USA. FUNimation is the USA's official representatives for TOEI Animation and Toriyama's businesses in America on this subject of DB-DBGT. Anything related to those topics goes through them. That's how they are related to this.

Also I am not saying I want this shut down. I am just discussing and surprised it hasn't been shut down yet. It's kinda like skyrim and Oblivion and Morrowing for the Elderscrolls. They were making Morroblivion when they got notices (and they aren't charging or anything and making everything from scratch) of cease and desist. They contacted Bethsda and finally got legal permission in contract to make Skyblivion and Skywind and Morroblivion and anything else. But until they did that they couldn't make what they were doing anymore.
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Well the project hasn't been given any warnings yet.
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Lol money or not, not many people are actually informed on the laws at least in the USA. FUNimation is the USA's official representatives for TOEI Animation and Toriyama's businesses in America on this subject of DB-DBGT. Anything related to those topics goes through them. That's how they are related to this.
Well its not,deal with it
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2014, 09:27:39 AM »
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Well its not,deal with it

Wow since when can someone just "declare" that something isn't illegal because they haven't been caught yet? surly you can't.

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Wow since when can someone just "declare" that something isn't illegal because they haven't been caught yet? surly you can't.
Surely you are a obvious troll who just wanna start drama.
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Surely you are a obvious troll who just wanna start drama.

Troll definition means "to literally be intentionally causing problems and arguments with the intent to cause trouble" I am not intending or literally trying to cause problems. I am discussing. If you don't like it don't reply.

The person who first starts to disagree is the person is more than likely the troll not the person discussing.

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Troll definition means "to literally be intentionally causing problems and arguments with the intent to cause trouble" I am not intending or literally trying to cause problems. I am discussing. If you don't like it don't reply.

The person who first starts to disagree is the person is more than likely the troll not the person discussing.
Dude this website are for people who actually want the game to come back
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Dude this website are for people who actually want the game to come back

Yeah and I wanted to play it when it was legally out. I am actually searching for a running version of this game and sadly no one has tried it would seem to actually bring it back exactly as it was. This is the ONLY place I have found anywhere that claims to be doing stuff and shows potential videos and screenshots.

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Troll definition means "to literally be intentionally causing problems and arguments with the intent to cause trouble" I am not intending or literally trying to cause problems. I am discussing. If you don't like it don't reply.

The person who first starts to disagree is the person is more than likely the troll not the person discussing.
They cant be sued because they are not gaining any money off it and they use a self made client

so there is nothing to sue.
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Lol money or not, not many people are actually informed on the laws at least in the USA. FUNimation is the USA's official representatives for TOEI Animation and Toriyama's businesses in America on this subject of DB-DBGT. Anything related to those topics goes through them. That's how they are related to this.

Also I am not saying I want this shut down. I am just discussing and surprised it hasn't been shut down yet. It's kinda like skyrim and Oblivion and Morrowing for the Elderscrolls. They were making Morroblivion when they got notices (and they aren't charging or anything and making everything from scratch) of cease and desist. They contacted Bethsda and finally got legal permission in contract to make Skyblivion and Skywind and Morroblivion and anything else. But until they did that they couldn't make what they were doing anymore.
I find that rather surprising, since Bethesda includes the tools for making such mods with their games.

And actually, if anything were to be the legal representation of those in the US, it would Viz Media and Bandai-Namco. FUNImation merely licenses the anime. The manga in particular was released without even a glance at FUNImation.

Also, there's been an explanation to the legality of the project.


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I find that rather surprising, since Bethesda includes the tools for making such mods with their games.

And actually, if anything were to be the legal representation of those in the US, it would Viz Media and Bandai-Namco. FUNImation merely licenses the anime. The manga in particular was released without even a glance at FUNImation.

Also, there's been an explanation to the legality of the project.

can you please give a link to that explanation?

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The project has not been given anything that shows illegal actions probaly since its pretty much promoting the new dragon ball z game.
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They cant be sued because they are not gaining any money off it and they use a self made client

so there is nothing to sue.

copyright infringement. You don't have to make money for it to be a violation. Simply to "make" something within legal US definition being 60% or more in likeness is an infringement. You don't have to be selling it to be illegal. What country do you live in? If you don't believe me go look up the laws (Federal Only counts)

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The project has not been given anything that shows illegal actions probaly since its pretty much promoting the new dragon ball z game.

you mean Xenoverse right?

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copyright infringement. You don't have to make money for it to be a violation. Simply to "make" something within legal US definition being 60% or more in likeness is an infringement. You don't have to be selling it to be illegal. What country do you live in? If you don't believe me go look up the laws (Federal Only counts)

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you mean Xenoverse right?
I think its called fair use?
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can you please give a link to that explanation?

Here you go.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?topic=1447.0

copyright infringement. You don't have to make money for it to be a violation. Simply to "make" something within legal US definition being 60% or more in likeness is an infringement. You don't have to be selling it to be illegal. What country do you live in? If you don't believe me go look up the laws (Federal Only counts)

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you mean Xenoverse right?

Uh, you realize this game isn't centered in the US anyway, right?
The server's owner is Australian.

Besides, in all likelihood, the only ones who would complain are FUNImation, which have no legal course here, since it's unrelated to the anime, and was never available in any country where FUNI had it licensed.


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I think its called fair use?

Fair use, that's funny. That only applies to media as in like the news and video reviews. You can't make an entire video game with the fair use law. It even specifically says in that law that it only applies to media news and reviews that someone can make money off of whatever. The only catch is you get 5 seconds of show time and no more no matter the content. Ever watch the new and they say "I think we can only play 5 seconds....is that right Jim?" And then they play the whatever. Also Fair use applies to things that no longer have a copyright to anyone. Meaning if it is labeled as "fair use" and no copyright is on the product you can use it and make money with it. Has nothing to do with making something.

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Here you go.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?topic=1447.0

Uh, you realize this game isn't centered in the US anyway, right?
The server's owner is Australian.

Besides, in all likelihood, the only ones who would complain are FUNImation, which have no legal course here, since it's unrelated to the anime, and was never available in any country where FUNI had it licensed.


Okay didn't know they were in Australia. Means they escape US law. But they do have to deal with Japanese laws because that's where it is copyrighted to. Hopefully they don't shut it down.