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« on: October 25, 2014, 12:44:19 PM »

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Hello everyone, I just had a thought, DBGT can still be considered canon if they did a whole type of multi-verse theory thing. Because technically it would just mean that another version from a different universe of Goku and Vegeta achieved Golden Ozaru, and SS4 which was hinted at in Battle of the Gods (The whole multi verse thing I mean). Possibly the other versions of Goku and Vegeta may even teach our timeline Goku and Vegeta how to go Golden Ozaru, or SS4 or not. Another interesting thought I had was, there is a pic of Goku surfacing around the internet, with the whole Saiyuki, monkey King look to it. I was thinking since in the DBGT timeline Goku went off with Shenlong, maybe he became a God or maybe that universes Chaos God. What's everyone's thoughts on the subject?

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 01:04:35 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2014, 01:24:39 PM »

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GT was never canon. Even before more stuff was added to the series, GT was heavily inconsistent, and never made much sense. It was little more than a way to expand the paycheck.

And the thing with Goku dressed in the Saiyuki costume was just used as stuff like title cards in the manga. It never held any purpose other than to look nice. After all, Dragon Ball originally began as a parody of Saiyuki.


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 Have withstood pain to create many weapons
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2014, 06:44:20 PM »

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whatever the 2 people above me said . NEVAH GON BE CANNON

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2014, 07:13:03 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2014, 10:02:31 PM »

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You might as well say in a different multiverse that vegeat and goku achieved ssj34 and that could be considered cannon. lol.it cant be.
    
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2014, 11:07:10 PM »

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GT can still be canon? It never was canon, and it's never going to be canon.

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 01:36:52 AM »

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I'm sorry but no matter what people say, it will never be cannon.

1. GT has no manga.
2. Plot wasn't written by Toriyama(SS4 design and Villain designs are made by Toriyama)
3. Has huge plot holes and inconsistencies

Look at thing that are considered canon:
DB - Manga, plot by original creator.
DBZ - Manga, plot by original creator, some characters designs not by original creator.
Bardock father of Goku - approved by original creator.
DBZ:Battle of Gods - Manga, plot AND character designs by original creator.
Goku and his friends return - Vegetas brother Tarble mentioned in 100% canon movie DBZ:BOZ, that means it's approved by original creator.

P.S. Battle of Gods made GT 100% non-canon.
1. SSG
2. In BOG Pilafs and his gang are young, Pilafs henchman Mai(100% human) is about the same age as kid Trunks, but GT(if it existed) takes place a few years after BOG but there Pilaf and Mai are old and trunks is young.
Mai in BOG
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130915061803/dragonball/images/f/fc/TrunksHostage.png
Mai in GT
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Humans cant become so old in about 11 years.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 02:01:20 AM »

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Stop with GT can be canon, its can't be. Its not possible anymore. GT was horrible anyway.

I'm sorry but no matter what people say, it will never be cannon.

1. GT has no manga.
2. Plot wasn't written by Toriyama(SS4 design and Villain designs are made by Toriyama)
3. Has huge plot holes and inconsistencies

Look at thing that are considered canon:
DB - Manga, plot by original creator.
DBZ - Manga, plot by original creator, some characters designs not by original creator.
Bardock father of Goku - approved by original creator.
DBZ:Battle of Gods - Manga, plot AND character designs by original creator.
Goku and his friends return - Vegetas brother Tarble mentioned in 100% canon movie DBZ:BOZ, that means it's approved by original creator.

P.S. Battle of Gods made GT 100% non-canon.
1. SSG
2. In BOG Pilafs and his gang are young, Pilafs henchman Mai(100% human) is about the same age as kid Trunks, but GT(if it existed) takes place a few years after BOG but there Pilaf and Mai are old and trunks is young.
Mai in BOG
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130915061803/dragonball/images/f/fc/TrunksHostage.png
Mai in GT
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090220190703/dragonball/images/f/fa/Mai_old.png
Humans cant become so old in about 11 years.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 04:54:59 AM »

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I'm sorry but no matter what people say, it will never be cannon.

1. GT has no manga.
2. Plot wasn't written by Toriyama(SS4 design and Villain designs are made by Toriyama)
3. Has huge plot holes and inconsistencies

Look at thing that are considered canon:
DB - Manga, plot by original creator.
DBZ - Manga, plot by original creator, some characters designs not by original creator.
Bardock father of Goku - approved by original creator.
DBZ:Battle of Gods - Manga, plot AND character designs by original creator.
Goku and his friends return - Vegetas brother Tarble mentioned in 100% canon movie DBZ:BOZ, that means it's approved by original creator.

P.S. Battle of Gods made GT 100% non-canon.
1. SSG
2. In BOG Pilafs and his gang are young, Pilafs henchman Mai(100% human) is about the same age as kid Trunks, but GT(if it existed) takes place a few years after BOG but there Pilaf and Mai are old and trunks is young.
Mai in BOG
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130915061803/dragonball/images/f/fc/TrunksHostage.png
Mai in GT
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090220190703/dragonball/images/f/fa/Mai_old.png
Humans cant become so old in about 11 years.

DBO also rendered GT non-canon (even though I think a lot of people already considered it as such anyway). None the less, couldn't have said it better myself.


"I am the bone of my sword
 Steel is my body and fire is my blood
 I have created over a thousand blades
 Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life
 Have withstood pain to create many weapons
 Yet, those hands will never hold anything
 So as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works."

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 06:50:58 AM »
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2. In BOG Pilafs and his gang are young, Pilafs henchman Mai(100% human) is about the same age as kid Trunks, but GT(if it existed) takes place a few years after BOG but there Pilaf and Mai are old and trunks is young.
Mai in BOG
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130915061803/dragonball/images/f/fc/TrunksHostage.png
Mai in GT
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090220190703/dragonball/images/f/fa/Mai_old.png
Humans cant become so old in about 11 years.
they could have found the dragon balls again and made the wish to be there right age again just saying

Post Merge: October 26, 2014, 06:54:37 AM
and the person on top has a good point look at the two different timelines with the androids one were they killed all the z fighters and the other were they didnt
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2014, 07:34:26 AM »

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they could have found the dragon balls again and made the wish to be there right age again just saying

Post Merge: October 26, 2014, 06:54:37 AM
and the person on top has a good point look at the two different timelines with the androids one were they killed all the z fighters and the other were they didnt
Thats like saying
"I wish to be old". Pilaf had nothing against being a kid again.

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2014, 07:53:12 AM »

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they could have found the dragon balls again and made the wish to be there right age again just saying

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and the person on top has a good point look at the two different timelines with the androids one were they killed all the z fighters and the other were they didnt

Except GT doesn't make any sense in the long run. There's many inaccuracies, starting with Goku being turned into a child. Goku shouldn't have any more or less trouble retaining SSJ3, but in GT, because he was turned into a kid, it only lasts for a few seconds. However, that would require his mastery of the ability to have changed, which means his power level would have changed, which is beyond the power of the Dragon Balls.
Remember, Shenron couldn't turn #17 and #18 back into humans because of their power, so how would he be able to alter Goku's power?
And using the different set of Dragon Balls is meaningless, as it would go beyond even Porunga.
There's also stuff like Old Kaioshin knowing about SSJ4 when he didn't even seem to know about Super-Saiyajins until Goku and the others found him.

If there's any part of the franchise that isn't canon that could be considered canon, it's the movies, as they're considered to take place in a separate timeline (except for Battle of Gods, which is officially canon).

Besides, the alternate timelines depicted are canon, even if they're not focused on. Saying GT "could" be canon in an alternate timeline means nothing because it was never depicted in the canon.

Besides, why would you even want GT to be canon? Let's face it, it was pretty awful.


"I am the bone of my sword
 Steel is my body and fire is my blood
 I have created over a thousand blades
 Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life
 Have withstood pain to create many weapons
 Yet, those hands will never hold anything
 So as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works."

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2014, 08:25:38 AM »

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GT was just a way to earn cash, it was poorly thought out and the ending made me vomit in my mouth a little bit

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2014, 03:13:57 PM »

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Did Goku ever really fully master ss3? Because it always drained an insane amount of power from him, so that could be why in his kid form he couldn't handle it for long. He said he could only handle it for long times when he was dead. Also the movie timeline thing I thought about as well. Just be interesting in my opinion if they will include any of the outside source of the main continuity if they do decide to go all mutli world theory.

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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2014, 03:29:55 PM »

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Did Goku ever really fully master ss3? Because it always drained an insane amount of power from him, so that could be why in his kid form he couldn't handle it for long. He said he could only handle it for long times when he was dead. Also the movie timeline thing I thought about as well. Just be interesting in my opinion if they will include any of the outside source of the main continuity if they do decide to go all mutli world theory.
While it does negatively effect him in that it requires a lot of Ki, it's not as though it immediately runs out on him.
In Battle of Gods, he didn't run out because of the Ki output, he got KO'd. Even before then, he lasted quite some time before running out of Ki, while fighting Kid Buu.

GT however had him take like one hit, and then he reverted for no reason. Not only that, but by then Goku's power level was supposed to be much higher than Buu's in his normal form. If he'd trained that hard, going SSJ3 should have been nothing to him.


"I am the bone of my sword
 Steel is my body and fire is my blood
 I have created over a thousand blades
 Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life
 Have withstood pain to create many weapons
 Yet, those hands will never hold anything
 So as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works."