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« on: September 09, 2014, 03:54:31 AM »

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I get an idea about more dynamical and longer pvp in DBO...

ITS VERY SIMPLE! Just add 75% dodge rate while dashing for all classes!
-ALMOST nontarget xD
-Much more dynamical? OFC!
-Much more balanced? OFC!
-Need more skill? YES!
-PVP is longer? YEAH!

It's Just "Alpha" of my idea so u can add some upgrades for it ^^ if not enough balanced cuz of classes like Dende. I think solve for it  would be making dashing cost free while PVP but that would be a bit too much annoying cuz of JUMP - JUMP - JUMP -_- OR make dash cost in % value of maximum mana :) CC would be very helpful there but harder to use on ur target :D Would be very nice if some of DBOR project ppls could post his opinion about it here.


Sry for my english and Inviting for discussion :)

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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2014, 04:10:04 AM »

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Sounds like you might be on to something.
    
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2014, 04:12:22 AM »
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umm...did he really write "Just add 75% dodge rate while dashing for all classes!"  :o

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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 04:15:57 AM »

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dash have like 1 sec duration so u need timing to dodge some skills.


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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 04:19:01 AM »

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I like this idea, the game requires more skill then!


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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 04:20:24 AM »

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Yeah it might be cool.
I wana watch how people dash, dash and ring out. HAHAHA
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 04:23:13 AM »

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There is still mouse dashing xD and 1 more rule for it. - shorter dash - shorter dodge duration.


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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 05:46:38 AM »

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Nice idea ;D let's see if this can be added to the game after it's released.

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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 05:46:49 AM »

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Man i already love to spam dash for positioning etc so it would be great actually but idk if it's possible & idk if noobs will like it


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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 06:02:44 AM »

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Well if dash wouldn't take EP, it would be crazy...
Dash, Dash, Stun, attack, Dash, Dash, attack, Dash, Dash over 9000... LOL
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014, 06:06:23 AM »

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thats why i said it need % EP cost for all classes


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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2014, 06:18:57 AM »

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Not a bad idea, in saint seiya online when you dash/roll over (if you do it in the right moment properly) you avoid any skill or damage thrown at you. However, you have a limit of 3-4 dashes until ur mana runs out (in SSO, skills don't consume mana, only hasted running and dashes).
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014, 06:21:13 AM »

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Solve is decrease mana cost of skills cuz u would need to use dash while fighting :)


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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 12:20:48 PM »

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so a fighter can dash all match and not get hit

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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2014, 12:30:16 PM »

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so a fighter can dash all match and not get hit
No, the thing about this kind of dashes is that you can only do it like 3 times tops and then you'd have to wait until you can dash again. Besides it's just 0,5-1 second of inmunity, so your opponent will probs know when you're gonna do it.
That's the fun of it, see who messes up :D
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2014, 12:38:17 PM »

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Balance

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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2014, 01:06:09 PM »

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Generally ur STAT DODGES sould be disabled while dashing for give all classes the same dodge rate while dashing without it, fighter have higher chance while dash to dodge than other classes.


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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2014, 03:11:43 PM »

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There is this feature in this game called, guard.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2014, 03:22:09 PM »

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guard in this game suck and its underpowered, it not even making game dynamic just stay and press 1234 >.>


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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2014, 03:34:06 PM »

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There is this feature in this game called, guard.

Just what I thought.

guard in this game suck and its underpowered, it not even making game dynamic just stay and press 1234 >.>

Guard wasn't underpowered, you just had to know how to use it, that's all.

Dashing is good as it was. If I had to walk instead of dashing in PvP or PvE then I would have been screwed. Positioning and moving is important for the combat and shouldn't be underestimated. Giving it an additional effect like dodging would make the ability overpowered.
Setting a limit of uses to balance this would remove dynamics of the fight, and probably unbalancing the classes more than balancing.
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2014, 03:46:32 PM »

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This isn't all that bad of an idea tbh. He's got something going im pretty much fine with the way pvp is tbh though. It also takes mad work when u use skills then they miss then ur getting yo ass whooped then u gotta spam fast it's tiring :/ lmao.
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2014, 04:04:50 PM »

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guard in this game suck and its underpowered, it not even making game dynamic just stay and press 1234 >.>

There is no other move in the game that allows you to stop an attack, and then knock the attacker down straight after.
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2014, 04:15:50 PM »

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what i think it would be cool its to balance 1 thing i hated in dbo . so lets just say u niddlle someone as a fighter and he dashes away before the atk hits in the animation . the niddle will still hit u . thats gey m8 . Itd be cooler if we dashed around to hit someone . more like a skill shot . then just buttons buttons . needs more pvp focus smell me?

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There is no other move in the game that allows you to stop an attack, and then knock the attacker down straight after.

ya but for that to happen its pretty rare

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 05:16:17 PM »

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what i think it would be cool its to balance 1 thing i hated in dbo . so lets just say u niddlle someone as a fighter and he dashes away before the atk hits in the animation . the niddle will still hit u . thats gey m8 . Itd be cooler if we dashed around to hit someone . more like a skill shot . then just buttons buttons . needs more pvp focus smell me?


Agree,but thats the game dynamic,its click to skill and not wide skill usage,i cant see how would that be implement in any way,i mean yeah it can be made,but hell that means alot of F**** work,which i think its just impossible now,besides i want to play the game again as soon as possible,hell aint gonna wait 5-10 years for that,ill get to old :P

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2014, 05:27:35 PM »

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Strider even tho you're probably the only one guy that i respect in DBO and i see you as a great player, you're dead wrong about the Guard spell.

You see, i know everything about the PvP in this game, and Guard is actually REALLY good, even OP if you know how to use it, or instead when to use it, now let me give you some details about this ability.

First of all, i did a lot of tests, and i found out that (Dumke can try it on DBOR he'll tell you it's true) when your guard is on, you will have a reduction of about 15% FINAL damages, which is kinda great when your spells are on CD, and your auto attacks are shit (let's say a mighty majin, or namek warrior), BUT on top of that, there is also other effects, which are based on the "resistance rate", i do not however know the exact % of this effect, but i am pretty sure that having the Guard on increases the resistance rate of ATLEAST 25%, which is once again HUGE, which means that you will easily block Stuns, Debuffs, and of course Knock Downs, oh and that's not only this, you can also block regulars spells, a well used Guard is the key to victory, most of the time, even tho we couldn't see much of these skilled aspects of the game because of cash shop and full +15 fags cashers who only spam 1234 and still get aura as you said.

So yeah, basically, Guard increases your resistance by a LOT, this is also why good Fighters will use Guard whenever they need to, because the Dexterity stat also increases the resistance rate, and since most of them wears a resistance necklace well their guard will block anything about 90% of the time, i mean c'mon, don't you think that there's a good reason for the game devs to put an RP ability that crushes guards ?

Now about the Dash, i do not think that it needs such a HUGE upgrade, but i do think however that something like, a + 20% bonus in movement speed for 2 seconds after using the Dash ability would be kinda great, i mean it won't be a big change, but it could still be something relevant if well used, now i would like to know your opinion on that.

tl;dr : Guard OP, give 20% bonus movement speed for 2 seconds after using Dash. (do not stack)
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