Topic: Twitch Bows Down To The Copyright Overlords (Read 2644 times)

Jak · « **on:** August 07, 2014, 12:10:11 PM »

http://recode.net/2014/08/06/twitch-will-mute-copyrighted-music-in-on-demand-videos/

Nia · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2014, 12:19:21 PM »

More people need to be like Sonic.

Seriously, that kind of stuff is dumb as hell though.
Some of these copyright things get absurdly out of control.

Jak · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2014, 12:26:20 PM »

Can we just have a naughtyword legal battle already? Legal precedent to put an end to this legal grey area.

Luke[Dumke] · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2014, 03:30:25 PM »

Inb4 i can't use any media outlet on the internet because google has bought them all out.
>tfw banned from google adsense

I barely ever watch old footage anyways.
So this really doesn't effect a good majority.

Other then the deletion of archived videos.

SkullBank · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2014, 06:08:26 PM »

I'm switching to bing!

Jak · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2014, 09:34:27 PM »

Quote from: Luke[Dumke] on August 07, 2014, 03:30:25 PM

Inb4 i can't use any media outlet on the internet because google has bought them all out.
>tfw banned from google adsense

I barely ever watch old footage anyways.
So this really doesn't effect a good majority.

Other then the deletion of archived videos.

How long really though before they decide to start policing streams? I don't think it'd be that difficult for them to do. As things stand you can still use Twitch as the gaming streaming service it has always been used for, but the second they start policing the streams they could shut your whole stream down for having the radio on in Grand Theft Auto.

Then there's the issue that the Content ID bot on twitch is actually worse than the one on youtube. Not only does it mis-flag left and right(even flagging a video posted by Twitch itself) it also seems to mute 30 minutes of the video.

On top of all of that, if copyright holders want to enforce their rights that's fine, they have every right to do that. But this guilty until proven innocent policy is beyond ridiculous. It is the obligation of the accuser to present evidence of guilt, not the obligation of the accused to present evidence of innocence.

Luke[Dumke] · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2014, 09:54:27 PM »

Quote from: Jak on August 07, 2014, 09:34:27 PM

How long really though before they decide to start policing streams? I don't think it'd be that difficult for them to do. As things stand you can still use Twitch as the gaming streaming service it has always been used for, but the second they start policing the streams they could shut your whole stream down for having the radio on in Grand Theft Auto.

Then there's the issue that the Content ID bot on twitch is actually worse than the one on youtube. Not only does it mis-flag left and right(even flagging a video posted by Twitch itself) it also seems to mute 30 minutes of the video.

On top of all of that, if copyright holders want to enforce their rights that's fine, they have every right to do that. But this guilty until proven innocent policy is beyond ridiculous. It is the obligation of the accuser to present evidence of guilt, not the obligation of the accused to present evidence of innocence.

The more we want to advance, the less we actually achieve.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2cvasc/tsm_odd_one_vod_muted_for_copyright_claim_on/

"Twitch mutes Riot Games product background music in Riot Games product because of violating copyright agreements of Riot Games product."

Jak · « **Reply #7 on:** August 09, 2014, 07:33:56 AM »

Looks like they've added an appeal button.

Luke[Dumke] · « **Reply #8 on:** August 09, 2014, 02:02:44 PM »

Well I've already scoped out a twitch alternative, sure it's not as big, but the UI is 100% better.
Which has me sold, I'll post about it later.

Rock · « **Reply #9 on:** August 09, 2014, 02:05:46 PM »

Quote from: Luke[Dumke] on August 09, 2014, 02:02:44 PM

Well I've already scoped out a twitch alternative, sure it's not as big, but the UI is 100% better.
Which has me sold, I'll post about it later.

Are you talking about Hitbox.tv? It's pretty good and more big names are moving to it

Luke[Dumke] · « **Reply #10 on:** August 09, 2014, 02:13:09 PM »

Quote from: Rock on August 09, 2014, 02:05:46 PM

Are you talking about Hitbox.tv? It's pretty good and more big names are moving to it

Indeed i am.

Rock · « **Reply #11 on:** August 09, 2014, 02:24:44 PM »

Yeah it could be a twitch killer if they keep putting money into it. And I heard it's a lot easier to get a partnership than twitch.

Luke[Dumke] · « **Reply #12 on:** August 09, 2014, 02:40:50 PM »

Quote from: Rock on August 09, 2014, 02:24:44 PM

Yeah it could be a twitch killer if they keep putting money into it. And I heard it's a lot easier to get a partnership than twitch.

Oh it's wonderfully, wonderful.

SonKagu · « **Reply #13 on:** August 09, 2014, 06:50:29 PM »

no 1 can beat twitch :^ . i mean people were there since forever . i dont see them moving to hitbox.tv

Vroku · « **Reply #14 on:** August 09, 2014, 07:59:48 PM »

Quote from: SonKagu on August 09, 2014, 06:50:29 PM

no 1 can beat twitch :^ . i mean people were there since forever . i dont see them moving to hitbox.tv

Agreed, always OP as usual SonKagu. Even though I don't watch streams, I have watched it quite a few times and I don't see people leaving it, especially if they have a large fan base.