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Expert Mode to TMQs and UDs
« on: August 06, 2014, 03:24:50 PM »
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Basically a 4th game mode to every TMQ and UD that make every dungeon a max cap level dungeon extremely hard and gives special types of drops for completing them.

Example with level 70s items(These stats could be Change because I know someone is going to complain about balance)


Expert mode UD1 could drop items like gloves, staffs, and subs and give bonus effects of like 40 dodge.

Expert mode UD2 could drop items like gloves, staffs, and subs and give bonus effects of like 20 LP absorb not %

Expert mode UD3 could drop items like gloves, staffs, and subs and give bonus effects of like 10% anti-critical

Expert mode UD4 could drop items like gloves, staffs, and subs and give bonus effects of like 40 strength.

Expert mode UD5 could drop items like gloves, staffs, and subs and give bonus effects of like 15 Dexterity

Expert mode UD6 could drop items like gloves, staffs, and subs and give bonus effects of like 15 Con,Focus, and 10 RP(the stats that make your RP go up faster when charging)


Expert mode TMQ1 drop 1 piece that would have to correspond to TMQ2 and 3 to get the bonus effect
Example TMQ1 would only drop boots. TMQ2 would only drop pants, and TMQ3 would only drop jackets. the same can work for TMQ4,5,6 and 7.

TMQ1 Boots
TMQ2 pants=====[bonus effect for wear these 3 pieces]======= Whatever the community decides
TMQ3 Jacket
TMQ4 gloves,staffs

TMQ4 gloves,staff
TMQ5 jacket
TMQ6 pants=====[Bonus effect for wearing these 4 pieces]======== Whatever the community decides
TMQ7 boots
Drop rate could be shitty like BID4(Kraken) and Cellx

The armor can be 50 less defense then CCBD level 70 armor.
The Gloves,staffs and sub-weapons can be 40 less attack bonus then regular level 70 gloves


The purpose of this mode is to make PVE more funnier and bring back alive dead content from UDs instead of just spamming same thing over and over again like crafting, CCBD, and Tmq5,6, and 7.These are just examples of what the Expert mode Dungeons can give if implemented.

Stats can be change too
« Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 03:04:26 PM by Adrian On Fire »



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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 03:43:53 PM »

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I like the idea of getting an effect for finishing a UD or a TMQ. Also, like the idea of having all gear like CC where it gives you an effect for wearing all peices.

Maybe a title effect for the UD completion?

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 04:40:21 PM »

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i like your idea, i think that there should be an option to enter to the tmqs from anywhere too(no need to be in front of it, or maybe just the first time).
or an option that once you finish tmq1 it lets you tp to tmq2 and so on.

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2014, 01:19:37 AM »
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I like the idea of getting an effect for finishing a UD or a TMQ. Also, like the idea of having all gear like CC where it gives you an effect for wearing all peices.

Maybe a title effect for the UD completion?

The title effect can work, maybe finishing the UD a certain amount of time on expert mode would unlock a title.
I say 20 or 30 times before you can unlock it.



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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2014, 02:12:56 AM »

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good idea indeed

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 02:15:16 AM »

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perfect wowww that fine, i like

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 02:31:16 AM »

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i think all titles should have a bonus, and more should be available for eggsample[lel]
UD1 speed = Fast as a Leopard  +20DEX +5%movement speed -5CON
UD1 Extereme = Hercule's asssistant   +10 STR +5DEX +5CON -500LP
UD1 PT of 4[max?] = Leggo pals    +10LPRegen   +10EPRegen
UD1 Exteme solo = If i don't who will! = +15 all stats (the STR DEX ect)
UD1 Clear
UD1 All missions = Pai Pai Killer +20all stats +5%move and atk speed

TMQ1 Kill Raditz on hardest mode = Save the Past lv.1 = +500Def +500p.ATK +500m.ATK

ya be creative, although the value of titles may decrease, but if done properly then some UDs and TMQs will be done more often and titles highgrade titles will be a demand instead of an accessories

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 02:36:52 AM »

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Finally an idea that isn't retarded. Congrats.


But, if tmq 1, 2 and 3 give a jacket, pants and boots, and tmq 5, 6 and 7 do the same, how will the stats differ between them? If they're all level 70 dungeons I'm assuming the gear would all be the same level as well. One has better M def and the other better E def?

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2014, 03:05:03 AM »

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Finally an idea that isn't retarded. Congrats.



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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 03:35:18 AM »

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Finally an idea that isn't retarded. Congrats.
sad to advice you that I think isn't his idea xD I wrote the "same" post time ago with the same things. My question in AMA too was related. This was my question:

Could you add a special event mode to the UDs or tmq? I mean For example to ud2, if the cap is 60 they set normal and hard difficult for level 38 and another special mode for level 60 maybe with an event. To make the game various and less boring. And don't spam ALWAYS the same dungeons for the cap. I think this could be easy to do because it shouldn't need to edit the client.

In another older post I talked about the drops too. Basically I wanted drops with the events (maybe weekly) in low level tmq-UD with a special event mode (veteran mode could be a cool name xD). And about cap dungeons in papaya (when the cap was 70) I wanted that the drops were like: Bacterian for gloves-boots-necklace, cell for subweapon-pants-rings, and kracken jacket-earings. Or something like that. So we could have a various pve system and less boring time at the level cap.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 03:50:57 AM by MaxJr »
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 03:36:51 AM »

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I wonder if this idea will be added. Seems interesting. Finally not another transformation suggestion lol.

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 06:25:43 AM »

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Well it is great idea and tittle bonus when you finish Expert mode.
Only I don't like that you need TMQ1, TMQ2, TMQ3 to get 1 full set.
That gear won't be good only because of def.
TMQ1 gear low def, TMQ2 normal, medium, TMQ3 high....

Better is 1 TMQ1 and finish it 3 times to get 1 TMQ1 set.
Or that main eff be based on luck.

Like max stats in TMQ1 is for con is 15.
Soo you get boots with con 15 and bonus eff, you keep them.
Then you go for rest of set with max main effect you need.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 12:02:14 PM »
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Finally an idea that isn't retarded. Congrats.


But, if tmq 1, 2 and 3 give a jacket, pants and boots, and tmq 5, 6 and 7 do the same, how will the stats differ between them? If they're all level 70 dungeons I'm assuming the gear would all be the same level as well. One has better M def and the other better E def?

Yea that can work 1,2,3 can be E.def and 5,6,7 can be M.def while tmq4 can be gloves or staff for both E.def and M.def

sad to advice you that I think isn't his idea xD I wrote the "same" post time ago with the same things. My question in AMA too was related. This was my question:

Could you add a special event mode to the UDs or tmq? I mean For example to ud2, if the cap is 60 they set normal and hard difficult for level 38 and another special mode for level 60 maybe with an event. To make the game various and less boring. And don't spam ALWAYS the same dungeons for the cap. I think this could be easy to do because it shouldn't need to edit the client.

In another older post I talked about the drops too. Basically I wanted drops with the events (maybe weekly) in low level tmq-UD with a special event mode (veteran mode could be a cool name xD). And about cap dungeons in papaya (when the cap was 70) I wanted that the drops were like: Bacterian for gloves-boots-necklace, cell for subweapon-pants-rings, and kracken jacket-earings. Or something like that. So we could have a various pve system and less boring time at the level cap.

Great minds think alike ;)

Well it is great idea and tittle bonus when you finish Expert mode.
Only I don't like that you need TMQ1, TMQ2, TMQ3 to get 1 full set.
That gear won't be good only because of def.
TMQ1 gear low def, TMQ2 normal, medium, TMQ3 high....

Better is 1 TMQ1 and finish it 3 times to get 1 TMQ1 set.
Or that main eff be based on luck.

Like max stats in TMQ1 is for con is 15.
Soo you get boots with con 15 and bonus eff, you keep them.
Then you go for rest of set with max main effect you need.



Not what I meant

i think all titles should have a bonus, and more should be available for eggsample[lel]
UD1 speed = Fast as a Leopard  +20DEX +5%movement speed -5CON
UD1 Extereme = Hercule's asssistant   +10 STR +5DEX +5CON -500LP
UD1 PT of 4[max?] = Leggo pals    +10LPRegen   +10EPRegen
UD1 Exteme solo = If i don't who will! = +15 all stats (the STR DEX ect)
UD1 Clear
UD1 All missions = Pai Pai Killer +20all stats +5%move and atk speed

TMQ1 Kill Raditz on hardest mode = Save the Past lv.1 = +500Def +500p.ATK +500m.ATK

ya be creative, although the value of titles may decrease, but if done properly then some UDs and TMQs will be done more often and titles highgrade titles will be a demand instead of an accessories

Stats needs work because it seem unbalance but I like the names

Finish all UDs on Expert mode within 30 minute = Fast as a Leopard  (Could be change)+25% attack speed + 25% movement speed

Solo atleast 1 Expert Mode UD = Me My Myself and I = (could be change)+15 all stats

Every other UD can have their own title with different stats
« Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 03:05:14 PM by Adrian On Fire »



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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2014, 12:06:07 PM »

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Dumke said that he was gonna balance everything out even if that means taking way skill or adding more skills or nerfing things or boosting so dont worry it will be balanced. Drop rate gonna change too.
    
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2014, 01:59:14 PM »

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Stats needs work because it seem unbalance but I like the names

Finish all UDs on Expert mode within 30 minute = Fast as a Leopard  (Could be change)+25% attack speed + 25% movement speed

Solo atleast 1 Expert Mode UD = Me My Myself and I = (could be change)+15 all stats

Every other UD can have their own title with different stats
Perfect :) you get the idea :D

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2014, 07:42:11 PM »

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Great minds think alike ;)
 

lol

Anyways I m glad to see that "our" idea has got this success xD so I thought more details and I think that the best system to make this an antiboring system, could be make an EVENT rotation to avoid the fast spam and full gear. With a weekly rotation, you have to wait atleast 2 months to get all the stuffs. So you wont get bored in 2 weeks. The gear drop should be:

-NO BIND because if it will be, after 1 member gets the items will leave -.- if no bind they can sell and can be in the team;
-DROP: 1/20 (or harder) legend and 1/5 rare etc...
-RANDOM STATS (ofc that they have to add the brown boxes somewhere without cash I hope lol);
-SET BONUS EFFECT and with 2 different sets: 1 set from tmq2, tmq3, tmq4 can give proprs or CON set bonus, the second set from tmq5, tmq6, tmq7 can give you for example anticrit 15% set bonus (you need to have ALL THE SET like the cc one);
-5-10% more attack in weapons and 5-10% more defense than normal drop gears;
-The difficult of the special mode will have to be like kracken or harder.

f you clear all the tmq in the special mode you will get a title (balanced).

In my opinion this event should start after tmq2 and UD2. Tmq1 and UD1 should be leave for kids. Maybe for 1 week per month, they could make an event with tmq1 and UD1 special mode capped at lv 29 with special gear for kids. So we have pve for kids too. Since it misses in dbo by far. Ofc set the cc for lv 50+... A balanced aura for kids should be a reward for something else and not a reward for look 4 people do the 150cc lol...


With this I think that it will be far harder get bored in dbo because every week you will have 1 special tmq (not always the same and don't forget that the tmq should be the main pve! Because is the soul of dbz and is the best connection with dbo and dbz) and ofc the BIDS and CC. All of this, shouldn't need to edit the client, so I THINK (not sure) that wont be so hard to implement.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 08:11:17 PM by MaxJr »
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