Looking for feedback in my build

[Tofu]

A long time ago I looked for an ideal Turtle Hermit build for PvE good enough to have some fun in PvP from time to time but mostly dedicate to PvE. I asked in dbocom for good builds and out of those I made up mine. I know DBOR will be more balanced and also that the max lvl will be 38 at first but I made this one even before DBO closed.

Here's the build: http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001004001001001000333030012255211333134432120

Also, about the gear I read the ideal attribute is Wild for weapons but I don't know if it's the same for armour. I also read about the stats I should be looking for and I'll update them briefly because I can't remember.

Edit: Updated the link to DBOR site instead of DBOCom.

[Roku]

Beauty about turtle is that their builds can work for both PvP and PvE, you've got the essentials.

[Iceman]

Beauty about turtle is that there builds can work for both PvP and PvE, you've got the essentials.

Yes Indeed. Still for me turtle was weak, yes it have kames and other things to save you but still def was too low.
I love DW or SK with PVE build for PVE, you don't care if mobs attack you or not, or if there is 1 mob or 5 of them lol.

[Roku]

Turtle wasn't built to be a tank class. They're more support and dps rather than tank.

[Tofu]

Yes Indeed. Still for me turtle was weak, yes it have kames and other things to save you but still def was too low.
I love DW or SK with PVE build for PVE, you don't care if mobs attack you or not, or if there is 1 mob or 5 of them lol.

DW = Dark Warrior and I can't remember what SK stands for but they're both Nameks, right? For some reason I don't want to play Nameks,  which is weird because I usually main tanks in MMORPG's but I'm more interested in Majins for a reason. Guess it's because I consider the Namek transformation a little bit dumb, or maybe because I didn't really like the Nameks that much in the anime, not even Piccolo.

[Roku]

I can't remember what SK stands for

It stands for Shadow Knight. Not all Namekians are tanks. They have Poko and Dende, healder type class.

[Tofu]

It stands for Shadow Knight. Not all Namekians are tanks. They have Poko and Dende, healder type class.

Yeah but healer is not my style so if I ever get to play a Namek it would be a SK or a DW since I love tanking  ;D

Back to my Turtle feedback, I was told on a forum thread I kindda took over that Focus attribute is apropiate for the armor too.

[Sport]

First off, Next time use the dbor skill calculator link, it will be easier.


Second, the best Turtle build you can get is this = http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001014001011001000333000012251511333134432500

There's nothing you can't do with that build. It absolutely is the best thing you can get. If you are going for PVE, you can always swap 3 points from turtle rod impale for KOK and have higher damage.

But, if your build doesn't look similar to mine then you are doing something wrong.

[Tofu]

First off, Next time use the dbor skill calculator link, it will be easier.


Second, the best Turtle build you can get is this = http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001014001011001000333000012251511333134432500

There's nothing you can't do with that build. It absolutely is the best thing you can get. If you are going for PVE, you can always swap 3 points from turtle rod impale for KOK and have higher damage.

But, if your build doesn't look similar to mine then you are doing something wrong.

I wanted to remake the skills in the DBOR site but it's a pain to do it on my phone and I'm still waiting to get my laptop back. I'll check your skills once I borrow a laptop or something because on my phone I think I can't hover over skills to read them. Btw, KOK is Kaio-Ken, right? Just making sure I don't confuse it with something else.

[Sport]

I wanted to remake the skills in the DBOR site but it's a pain to do it on my phone and I'm still waiting to get my laptop back. I'll check your skills once I borrow a laptop or something because on my phone I think I can't hover over skills to read them. Btw, KOK is Kaio-Ken, right? Just making sure I don't confuse it with something else.

Yes KaioKen is KOK for short. It increases attack damage and Crits. Great in PVE.

[BlazingBarrager]

First off, Next time use the dbor skill calculator link, it will be easier.


Second, the best Turtle build you can get is this = http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001014001011001000333000012251511333134432500

There's nothing you can't do with that build. It absolutely is the best thing you can get. If you are going for PVE, you can always swap 3 points from turtle rod impale for KOK and have higher damage.

But, if your build doesn't look similar to mine then you are doing something wrong.

I'm sorry, but that isn't the best Turtle Build. It's good, but not the best.

http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001004001004001000330330015251511033134432100
Now this isn't the best build either (the best build is something you yourself adapt to), but it's pretty damn good since it belonged to Divine. As Roku stated earlier, the beauty about Turtles is that they can go PvE and PvP pretty easily. Oh, and this build is a singles PvP build. Just thought I'd throw that out.

[Tofu]

I'm sorry, but that isn't the best Turtle Build. It's good, but not the best.

http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001004001004001000330330015251511033134432100
Now this isn't the best build either (the best build is something you yourself adapt to), but it's pretty damn good since it belonged to Divine. As Roku stated earlier, the beauty about Turtles is that they can go PvE and PvP pretty easily. Oh, and this build is a singles PvP build. Just thought I'd throw that out.

Thanks man. I usually think there's no "best build" but an ideal build for each player. I just asked because I could be doing it completely wrong.

[Sport]

I'm sorry, but that isn't the best Turtle Build. It's good, but not the best.

http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001004001004001000330330015251511033134432100
Now this isn't the best build either (the best build is something you yourself adapt to), but it's pretty damn good since it belonged to Divine. As Roku stated earlier, the beauty about Turtles is that they can go PvE and PvP pretty easily. Oh, and this build is a singles PvP build. Just thought I'd throw that out.

Turtle Rod Hurl only needs 2/5 for the KD. Nothing more. You don't need the extra damage since your physical damage isn't high. So, i would take 3 points out of that.

The energy reduction skill you can give and take.

Spirit Rod needs to be maxed in my opinion because it is spammable and the damage is high. You can hit a human with that like 3 times in a row and they will die.

Reason why i put 1 skill point in Spirit ball is because it is success based and as a turtle your success is high with all that focus. The damage is in the 300s so if it crits you can one shot a human.

I also don't think that the increase DOT damage passive is needed since you only have 1 DOT skill. It's better you put it in the energy attack passive since majority of your skills are energy.


On another note, i don't think DiviNe was the best turtle.  I think Fencing was the best turtle.

[SkullBank]

As long as you got kamehameha and giant kamehameha an the the proper gear for when you pve farm an pvp your all good for a mostly build pvp turtle!

[Roku]

As long as you got kamehameha and giant kamehameha an the the proper gear for when you pve farm an pvp your all good for a mostly build pvp turtle!

You need more than just kamehameha.. and proper gear.

[SkullBank]

To pve no you don't cause a pvp build still has the things you need to pve you just need crit an focus gear along with con. The do pve!

[Roku]

Actually, for PvE there's plenty of more skills that can be more useful than Kamehameha. Have you played Turtle? I'm not legendary at it, but I can tell you for sure, Kamehameha skill is not the only skill you need to succeed. Turtles are big on the debuffs and stuns. Turtle isn't all AOE and flawless victory.

[SkullBank]

Yea but that's why ppl use turtles, for the Aoe if they wanted to go one by one with their kills they would pick a fighter or something to pve an wouldn't care about the pve build just make it full pvp

[Roku]

Sometime's the only choice is to go 1 by 1. Not everyone is expected to be so powerful that they can tank 4 mobs at once. Of course auto attack is an option but it's not strong enough. And debuffs as well. You know how handy they are in a turtle's build?

[SkullBank]

There just some ppl who want to see it two different ways! I'm just suggesting the easier way for some who wants to pvp a lil more! Aoe is The faster way of course! An putting KD on the move helps so the mobs don't get that many shits in!

[BlazingBarrager]

Turtle Rod Hurl only needs 2/5 for the KD. Nothing more. You don't need the extra damage since your physical damage isn't high. So, i would take 3 points out of that.

The energy reduction skill you can give and take.

Spirit Rod needs to be maxed in my opinion because it is spammable and the damage is high. You can hit a human with that like 3 times in a row and they will die.

Reason why i put 1 skill point in Spirit ball is because it is success based and as a turtle your success is high with all that focus. The damage is in the 300s so if it crits you can one shot a human.

I also don't think that the increase DOT damage passive is needed since you only have 1 DOT skill. It's better you put it in the energy attack passive since majority of your skills are energy.


On another note, i don't think DiviNe was the best turtle.  I think Fencing was the best turtle.

Honestly the points are just filler. You can put them anywhere really.

Energy Reduction is your only healing move outside of items, so it's really a life savior when you need it. I should know.

Spirit Rod actually doesn't do that much damage tbh. Out of all the times I used it I rarely got above 10k as you said at one time (or at least I think it's what you said). Not only that, but the boost between levels isn't really that much. Having it at 1 SP is really all you need. Besides, you're pretty much only going to use it against Fighters since Super Kamehameha has a quick CD as well.

I can agree that Spirit Ball is good due to its power and the fact it's based on success rate. My only problem is the long casting time, which is a major downer in PvP. It's less of an issue in PvE, but still I'd rather not put myself in a helpless position.

I'm not entirely sure on this, but I think the DoT skill also increases Consecutive Disk's power. It might be a bug though so I'm not certain.

[Tofu]

I've read and reviewed all skills, read the comments, and polished my build: http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001004001001001000333030011245211333134432500

Still wondering if I should take away 4 points from Spirit Rod and put 3 more in Turtle Rod Impale and 1 more in Turtle Rod Hurl. Other than that I consider the rest of the skills are good for my playstyle.

I'm thinking on maxing Turtle Rod Impale because of the burn. On strong bosses in PvE it could deal a huge ammount of damage if I can use it as soon as it goes off CD to keep it active all the time (only having 2 secs when it's not burning). Maybe Spirit Rod's damage at rank 5 is more worth the points though. I never reached high level so I can't tell. Other than that I think this is the best build or at least it is for me.

I got the energy passive in the Spiritualist tree instead of the increased DoT because that burn is not supposed to be my main source of damage anyway. Didn't get any other damage skills from the Spiritualist tree because they're too weak compared with the Turtle ones and the Spirit Ball being based on crits is not worth 2 points in my opinion, considering the cast time too.

The energy reduction buff is not worth maxing either. It's the only way of healing but it's a heal over time and it's quite low at higher levels... and also, you have to sacrifice damage for it when you can always carry some potions and stuff. In raids and dungeons and stuff you're supposed to have a healer anyway.

I think I explained all the stuff you guys were pointing out through the thread. If I missed something or I'm wrong about something let me know. I didn't even get to level 50 with my Turtle or any character at all so I might be wrong in a lot of stuff.

Edit: I know I kindda ressurected my own thread but I hadn't checked the stuff you guys recommended me yet and now I did it and fixed my build.