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Topic: SSJ Goku Stronger than SSJGod?  (Read 6240 times)

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SSJ Goku Stronger than SSJGod?
« on: June 04, 2014, 03:37:38 AM »

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Ok so in battle of gods when goku achieved SSJGod he was barely keeping up with bills but when he Retransformed into an SSJ he Quickly took control of the battle the hell?!

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2014, 03:39:05 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2014, 03:42:26 AM »

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So does this mean the SSJGod transformation is only temporary?

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2014, 03:44:07 AM »

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He already knew the power he had within

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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2014, 03:45:09 AM »

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Soo this means SSJGod was kinda pointless....

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actually God Goku is only stronger than ssj and sjj2 but weirdly not ssj3 which was proven in battle of Z also we don't know how any times the god ki gives cause far it's pretty the infinite symbol and with a huge question mark beside it. we need numbers and math to estimate the powerful of God Goku.


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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2014, 05:01:04 AM »

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God Goku was about as powerful as Omega Shenron when he first showed up. Plus Goku probably won't be going SSJ2 or 3 Akira Toriyama said

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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2014, 05:51:26 AM »

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actually God Goku is only stronger than ssj and sjj2 but weirdly not ssj3 which was proven in battle of Z also we don't know how any times the god ki gives cause far it's pretty the infinite symbol and with a huge question mark beside it. we need numbers and math to estimate the powerful of God Goku.
A game does not prove anything. SSJ3 Goku got flicked by Beerus and lost. God Goku put up a fight around 70% of Beerus' power.

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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2014, 06:11:07 AM »

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When they first attempted SSJGod they failed and that gave goku Mystic SSJ. And after he lost the god form he was an essence. So when Goku when SSJ he was basically Mystic SSJ Goku God's Essence. So that made him have a lot of power being able to go Super Saiyan God once more (in space).

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umh if u didnt watch the movie and pay attention ... at the end when goku stopped the energy ball and almost died... lord bills told him that gokus power didnt decrease dramaticly after he turned off the transformation.. and when he turned SSJ it was only boosted from te ssj power.. so.. goku has god power a bit decreased + SSJ power...

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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2014, 06:14:53 AM »

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Mystic SSJ? Tell me more

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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2014, 06:36:20 AM »

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Mystic SSJ? Tell me more

Lol its just mystic ssj. what more is there to tell? xD

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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2014, 06:37:25 AM »

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Its just that ive never heard of the form is it basically the same as Mystic Gohan or Different?

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I think thats his new power level. Its kinda like Gohan, but Goku is SSJ but is mystic. So in a way u can understand, he is mystic goku but with the golden SSJ Hair.

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So goku has basically reached his limit as an SSJ1? Imagine if he fought bills at SSJ3 With that power!

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2014, 07:41:41 AM »

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Indeed. It was stated goku was Stronger as a SSJ than SSJ2 and SSJ3.My guess is because he was fueled by anger when frieza killed krillin plus it was his first time accessing the SSJ power. So you can expect the first time accessing the power its power would be fresh (By fresh i mean as in all new and stuff.) and really strong.
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You guys know he won't go SSJ 2 or 3 anymore right?

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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2014, 08:12:14 AM »

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I have no idea what you guys are talking about, Goku did not go Mystic SSJ, and his SSJ isn't stronger than SSJ 2 or 3. What happened in the movie was that he became a SSJ God and fought Bills near equally as he stated he (Goku) was using about 80% and Bills 70%, then soon after he couldn't sustain the form anylonger and reverted to his base. Then after a little five second scruff he went SSJ using the leftover power from SSJ God making almost as strong as the latter, but then was forced into space where he went SSJ God again to barely withstand a GIANT ki ball from Bills.

Post Merge: June 04, 2014, 08:51:39 AM
Forgot to add that the leftover SSJ God does not last forever, for if it did, the first SSJ God as mentioned in the movie would not have been defeated by the evil Saiyans (that's right you capitalize races or species), and would instead would have been able to continue fighting them. What that means in this since is that Goku's SSJ being almost as strong as SSJ God will not last too far after the movie, unless he goes SSJ God again of course (and Vegeta probably wouldn't love to help).
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2014, 09:17:18 AM »

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So goku has basically reached his limit as an SSJ1? Imagine if he fought bills at SSJ3 With that power!

You're completely missing the point. He wouldn't need to become an SSJ3 because their wouldn't be any benefit to it.

After absorbing the God power into his being, he didn't need to transform anymore, it would just be a pain on the body with barely any boost... God powers are on anther plain to normal powers.


Its just that ive never heard of the form is it basically the same as Mystic Gohan or Different?

Good question. This actually leads to me second point. If i remember correctly the Old Kai said that ssj was the wrong kind of transformation. The transformations toll on the body in higher forms has too many draw backs.

Mystic and SSJG hold a similar principal. As in that they both give the user a large boost in their base, without drawbacks..

The reason Goku still uses super saiyan is because he has full mastery of the first form... That doesn't mean he won't get stronger, just that he can maintain the form without draining himself quickly.


Back to topic. We can say new SSJ Goku isn't stronger than SSJG but he may be the same strength. It was never clear in the movie how much power he retained.  Only that he absorbed it.


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Akira Toriyama is a hack dont forget that, he needs to reread his stuff because he can't remember stuff from his work, also the whole DB was created without much planning ahead, just going with the flow. From the way I see it, mystic power is like the limit in a normal being, while ssjgod makes the being a god at least at sence of being. But Akira is the ruler so I pray for his word of powerlevels
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