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Topic: Who's stronger Goku or Gohan?  (Read 21176 times)

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Who's stronger Goku or Gohan?
« on: May 13, 2014, 12:06:16 PM »

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This is a question many people are asking themselves. Is Goku stronger than Gohan (Buu Saga). I believe Gohan is stronger. Tell what you think and why (if you want to). Not counting Super Saiyan God since Goku relies on his friends power.

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2014, 12:08:56 PM »
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goku off course

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i mean of* course

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to be honest goku could fuse with gohan because you need a similar power level than the other partner so goku is similar to gohans power level but he didnt fuse because gohan got absorbed but he found vegeta
and btw gohan didnt own super buu gotenks absorb cause he was all beat up
gohan relies on help from other people :P
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2014, 12:15:09 PM »

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goku off course

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i mean of* course

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to be honest goku could fuse with gohan because you need a similar power level than the other partner so goku is similar to gohans power level but he didnt fuse because gohan got absorbed but he found vegeta
and btw gohan didnt own super buu gotenks absorb cause he was all beat up
gohan relies on help from other people :P
You are going wayy off topic. Your answer doesn't correlate with the why he's stronger. You are making no sense whatsoever. I didn't even say anything about fusion. Make yourself your own topic please and you can talk about that there. Thank you  :)
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2014, 12:21:40 PM »
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i wasnt being off topic cause i technically said THERE EQUAL
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2014, 12:25:03 PM »

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Goku is stronger. Those who say that Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Ssj 3 Goku are correct. But that was back then. Gohan did not spend his time training like Goku did. At the end of dbz we did see Goku being really strong only at normal stage. This means he must have become stronger. Gohan in the other hand is still the same as he was before, no change at all. Imagine how strong he must be in ssj, ssj2, and ssj3.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2014, 12:27:16 PM »

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Goku is stronger. Those who say that Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Ssj 3 Goku are correct. But that was back then. Gohan did not spend his time training like Goku did. At the end of dbz we did see Goku being really strong only at normal stage. This means he must have become stronger. Gohan in the other hand is still the same as he was before, no change at all. Imagine how strong he must be in ssj, ssj2, and ssj3.
I agree with you. Gohan was stronger when he fought Super Buu, but in his state during Battle of Gods Goku is stronger.

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2014, 12:27:34 PM »
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SSJGGOKU cant face his facts xD
he still wants to argue unfortunately :P

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2014, 12:43:07 PM »

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I'll restate my responses from before regarding Goku.

Goku clearly states that at full-power, SSJ3 could've easily defeated Buu. During the fight with Kid Buu, he states it again, but it's simply too strenuous.
Also, your statements regarding BoG are questionable. Doesn't Goku fight Beerus at some point in the movie using only SSJ1 and lasts for sometime after SSJ God runs out (or did I mishear that? Maybe I'll watch it tonight).

Kid Buu IS NOT weaker than Fat or Super Buu. Remember how Kaioshin nearly pissed himself when Kid Buu appeared?
In SSJ3 Goku treated Fat Buu like a ragdoll, but he had troubles against Kid Buu.

Super Buu treated Gohan like a ragdoll after absorbing Gotenks. When they removed Fat Buu from Super Buu's body after he absorbs Gohan, Goku and Vegeta notice that Kid Buu's power is actually rising.
Fat Buu acted as a seal holding back the full power he had.

A lot of you are saying that Gohan was holding back trying to save Gotenks and Piccolo from Super Buu, but there's nothing that supports that (except maybe in the English dialogue which is highly inaccurate to the original story). And even if he was holding back to save them, he wouldn't push his power down so much that he'd get treated like a dog's chewtoy.
Gohan was desperate there quite clearly.

Also, by the end of the series, we see Goku take a head on kiai from Uub. While he hasn't yet figured out how to control his power, it's still the same exact power Kid Buu had. Goku is not only in his normal form, but he only takes a few scrapes and bruises from it.

While the "Mystic" form is easier to maintain, I'd hardly call it more powerful.

Also, if you want to dip into the non-canon, look at Movie 13. Gohan gets slapped around by Hiredugarn in his Mystic form. SSJ3 Goku takes a hit, and just laughs it off.

Also, Battle of Gods IS canon. But you can use the epilogue data as well, especially since that's AFTER BoG.


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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2014, 12:43:46 PM »

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I agree with you. Gohan was stronger when he fought Super Buu, but in his state during Battle of Gods Goku is stronger.

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Odd... my last post should've appeared AFTER this one.

But Battle of Gods, IS in fact canon. That's been stated multiple times, and does fit into the timeline.


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 I have created over a thousand blades
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 Have withstood pain to create many weapons
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2014, 12:51:43 PM »
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alex thank you for beinging movie 13 up
gohan had no chance hirudigan had literaly raped gohan but goku defeated him with dragon fist and it was clearly easy with his ssj3 form while gohan was in mystic
                            

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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2014, 12:53:30 PM »

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alex thank you for beinging movie 13 up
gohan had no chance hirudigan had literaly raped gohan but goku defeated him with dragon fist and it was clearly easy with his ssj3 form while gohan was in mystic

Um... actually I mentioned Hiredugarn.

But like I said, that one IS non-canon. But there's a ton of other evidence to go with it.


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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2014, 12:55:00 PM »

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But Battle of Gods, IS in fact canon. That's been stated multiple times, and does fit into the timeline.
No it hasn't. It's been inferred to be canon but Akira has never said in verbatim that it was.

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I seem to remember him saying something about it being canon, but right off hand I have no proof. Regardless, that's not the point of the topic, and I've stated countless other things to support my theory.
Also, there's been nothing to state that it's NOT canon either.


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well you brung movie 13 up you said something about it

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you said exactly

Also, if you want to dip into the non-canon, look at Movie 13. Gohan gets slapped around by Hiredugarn in his Mystic form. SSJ3 Goku takes a hit, and just laughs it off.
                            

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I know that I did. What I meant is, you referred to Alex as saying it. I'm not Alex.

And I also said a lot of other things using the canon storyline to support my evidence.


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my bad i called you alex cause im on my phone ps3 and computer at the same time :P im gonna turn them both off just to make sense okay :D
                            

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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2014, 01:19:04 PM »

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I'd say, Goku as he's the main protagonist.
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I'd say, Goku as he's the main protagonist.
Dumb argument is dumb. Anyone who has ever watched anime can name multiple shows where the main protagonist is not the strongest in the series. Yusuke, for example.

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THANK YOU DUMKE
and right in movie 13 gohan got rag dolled by hirudigarn and ssj3 goku just owned him :P

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stop with the negativity anyways goku is stronger

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off topic but luke have you decided the date on realeasing in beta keys?

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releasing

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Dumb argument is dumb. Anyone who has ever watched anime can name multiple shows where the main protagonist is not the strongest in the series. Yusuke, for example.


its not dumb because its a simple opinion so calm so dont call dumkes opinion dumb because he and the team the only reason
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Dumb argument is dumb. Anyone who has ever watched anime can name multiple shows where the main protagonist is not the strongest in the series. Yusuke, for example.

Non-helpful response is non-helpful.


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 Have withstood pain to create many weapons
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its not dumb because its a simple opinion so calm so dont call dumkes opinion dumb because he and the team the only reason
dbor is here or coming
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Mikecw, you're entitled to your opinion, but if you're not gonna add to the thread, would you mind not posting on here?


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 So as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works."

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Now strength and fighting ability is two different things. If you mean strength in overall standings then,

Goku is stronger in my opinion just because he had the will power to continue to fight with kid buu. It was obvious that Goku and kid buu were matched up pretty well with kid buu having a little advantage over him not being able to get hurt much with all his flabby skin,



Are you dumb? It is canon. That has been stated many times before. Thats like saying the Bardocks movie isnt canon because of the time frame. It was in between a time frame of the buu saga and the trip uub took with Goku.

Show me proof where he says it isn't canon.

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Mikecw, you're entitled to your opinion, but if you're not gonna add to the thread, would you mind not posting on here?
I did add to the thread. I explained why a reason in the debate is flawed.

Are you dumb? It is canon. That has been stated many times before. Thats like saying the Bardocks movie isnt canon because of the time frame. It was in between a time frame of the buu saga and the trip uub took with Goku.

Show me proof where he says it isn't canon.
Show me proof it is canon. This isn't canon until proven non-canon, but  the exact opposite.