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How strong are Tien and Yamcha at the end of Z?
« on: April 07, 2014, 05:54:02 AM »

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Hey guys I'm back with with another disscusion about how strong the Z fighters at the end of DBZ.

I am going to make this a series of disscutions on these topics, so make such you keep an eye for these so you have an opportunity to chip in and write down your opinion.  ;)

So about Tien..

I put him at about Semi Perfect Cell for a couple of reasons.

1. Knowing Tien, he trains as hard as he can, so we know he trained during the 7 year gap.

2. I know this is non canon, but worth mentioning anyway. In the movie Bojack Unbound, during the Android Saga, we get a better look about how strong Tien is. He seemed on Par with base Future Trunks, which is a feat umong itself.

3. During the Buu Saga, when Buutenks was about make a finishing blow to Mystic Gohan, Tien used his Tri Beam to block Buu's energy attack, and it worked.

4. Tien used his Tri Beam to **** up Semi Perfect Cell.

5. In the Buu Saga, Goku said himself Tien "drastically improved" sign the Android Saga.

That makes you think then... How strong was Tien during the Android Saga?

I have him about at the level of 50 percent Frieza at that time, and their is a major gap difference between the 2 powers.

Onto Yamcha..

Seeing how he repeated retires from fighting, I don't have him very high.

I have Yamcha at about second form Frieza at the end of Z. Yamcha trained with King Kai, sure, but still.

The only time Yamcha seriously trains on Earth again is the Android Saga, and even then, Dr. Hero obliterated him.

And no training during the 7 year gap hurts him even more.

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2014, 05:56:59 AM »

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I don't like Tien, much. But I do respect him because he must be really strong now. As you said, he blocked buu's attack and stopped cell. He atleast should be as strong as how Goku was in his normal form against Freezer.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2014, 05:59:43 AM »

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I don't like Tien, much. But I do respect him because he must be really strong now. As you said, he blocked buu's attack and stopped cell. He atleast should be as strong as how Goku was in his normal form against Freezer.

Goku normal form against frieza? I would say he is even stronger than ssj goku against frieza. He is strongest human in the world i dont think Krillin would stand a chance against him. As for Yamcha i think on end of DBZ he finally reached strenght of Saibaman.

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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2014, 06:01:02 AM »

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I think yamacha is the same after frieza saga

about tien i believe that he is as strong as ssj1 Goku

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2014, 06:02:36 AM »

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Goku normal form against frieza? I would say he is even stronger than ssj goku against frieza. He is strongest human in the world i dont think Krillin would stand a chance against him. As for Yamcha i think on end of DBZ he finally reached strenght of Saibaman.

I know, that's why I said "at least" :).
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 06:02:48 AM »

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Goku normal form against frieza? I would say he is even stronger than ssj goku against frieza. He is strongest human in the world i dont think Krillin would stand a chance against him. As for Yamcha i think on end of DBZ he finally reached strenght of Saibaman.

IMAO

But really though, Yamcha was reking the Saibaman until it pulled a naughtyword move on Yamcha and exploded and tricked Yamcha by playing dead lol.

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I think yamacha is the same after frieza saga

about tien i believe that he is as strong as ssj1 Goku

From which Saga?

If I had to choose SSJ Goku, it would be from the early Android Saga, during the 3 year gap. But I'm choose Semi Perfect Cell, so.

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2014, 06:09:55 AM »

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He atleast should be as strong as how Goku was in his normal form against Freezer.
I completely disagree. Lets walk through the feats of Tien, shall we?
1.Beats Goku as a kid in DB(the episode with the pig thing)
2.Beats Goku as a Kid in DB(world tournament)
3.Holds Nappa off and would have done serious damage had his tri-beam hit
4.Beats Goku's record time on Snake Way
5.Stops Cell's second form in his tracks with Tri-Beams
6.Stops Buu(Gotenks absorbed)'s attack
Truely, I think Tien is the strongest human asset. Considering his determination, the end of DBZ probably put him in 2nd form Cell to Perfect Cell making him the strongest human. As for Yamcha, I could care less about him. He dies to a Siabaman, need I say more?
Swift as the Crane, steady as the Turtle... I have attained a state like no other has... I am The Mantis... Tien, I wont fail you this time... And as my Soul Rages on, never forget who got you there... Raging Souls. Yeah but

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I completely disagree. Lets walk through the feats of Tien, shall we?
1.Beats Goku as a kid in DB(the episode with the pig thing)
2.Beats Goku as a Kid in DB(world tournament)
3.Holds Nappa off and would have done serious damage had his tri-beam hit
4.Beats Goku's record time on Snake Way
5.Stops Cell's second form in his tracks with Tri-Beams
6.Stops Buu(Gotenks absorbed)'s attack
Truely, I think Tien is the strongest human asset. Considering his determination, the end of DBZ probably put him in 2nd form Cell to Perfect Cell making him the strongest human. As for Yamcha, I could care less about him. He dies to a Siabaman, need I say more?

When you said all these things Tien did better than Goku i though you were gonna say:
"Truely, I think Tien is stronger than Goku."

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2014, 06:17:31 AM »

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I completely disagree. Lets walk through the feats of Tien, shall we?
1.Beats Goku as a kid in DB(the episode with the pig thing)
2.Beats Goku as a Kid in DB(world tournament)
3.Holds Nappa off and would have done serious damage had his tri-beam hit
4.Beats Goku's record time on Snake Way
5.Stops Cell's second form in his tracks with Tri-Beams
6.Stops Buu(Gotenks absorbed)'s attack
Truely, I think Tien is the strongest human asset. Considering his determination, the end of DBZ probably put him in 2nd form Cell to Perfect Cell making him the strongest human. As for Yamcha, I could care less about him. He dies to a Siabaman, need I say more?

That's why I put Yamcha at second form Frieza's level. He's very weak e.e

I think Tien got a lot of training done during the gap. Goku even said it himself, so it must be true.

Next disscusion will be about Krillin and Android 18 ( since they are married and 18 turned into a Z fighter )





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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2014, 06:18:38 AM »

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When you said all these things Tien did better than Goku i though you were gonna say:
"Truely, I think Tien is stronger than Goku."
LOL. I wish but Sayains are hard to compete with...
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2014, 06:19:38 AM »

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Future Trunks is legit xd.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2014, 06:23:05 AM »

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Future Trunks is legit xd.

But Bojack Unbound isnt. Its not even canon, but the fight itself was great. FT only gained the upper hand when he turned SSJ.

I added it to my evidence on how strong Tien was because the fight seemed like it could happen if some event similar happened with a tournament.




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