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« on: March 29, 2014, 07:50:28 AM »

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Hi people! It is long since I made post here but I think about something and want to share with you people. Super Saiyan, Great Namek and Pure Majin. This are transformations. Only problem here is that SSJ is soo perfect, you can use almost every skill in that form. GN and Pure Majin you need to spend some SP to use them or they will be useless. I wana suggest when we get lvl 40 and be able to wish for transformation, this transformations should unlock all their skills at lvl 1 with no need to spend some SP there. That is, since in  GN and Pure Majin you can't use other skills than ones that are for that form, their skills should be unlocked since you wish for transformation, that is you will get them only unlocked at lvl 1 and skills are max at lvl 4-5. This way we won't call their transformations useless. Ofc PVE players would have that skills max, more dmg but this way everyone would ok with skills.
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2014, 08:05:25 AM »

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This is a great idea to me cause the way my PvP build is set up for ultimate I can't use Pure Majin. It would be useless like you said.

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2014, 08:12:42 AM »

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I was thinking about this long time ago, tbh I never expend sp on great namek attacks, and I only used this transformation just to look more cool and for shooting, this transformation is kind of a useless because you become much slower and you can not fly, not to mention duration time
Majins are in little better position but still not so good


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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2014, 08:13:03 AM »

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This is an awesome idea! I had a dende which I wanted to make a Gn but I needed to spend too much sp. I just spended the sp in something else.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2014, 08:29:36 AM »
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That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 08:32:19 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2014, 09:51:39 AM »

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Hi people! It is long since I made post here but I think about something and want to share with you people. Super Saiyan, Great Namek and Pure Majin. This are transformations. Only problem here is that SSJ is soo perfect, you can use almost every skill in that form. GN and Pure Majin you need to spend some SP to use them or they will be useless. I wana suggest when we get lvl 40 and be able to wish for transformation, this transformations should unlock all their skills at lvl 1 with no need to spend some SP there. That is, since in  GN and Pure Majin you can't use other skills than ones that are for that form, their skills should be unlocked since you wish for transformation, that is you will get them only unlocked at lvl 1 and skills are max at lvl 4-5. This way we won't call their transformations useless. Ofc PVE players would have that skills max, more dmg but this way everyone would ok with skills.
I want this so much because I want to be a Majin but pure Majins are simply underwhelming when you look at the facts
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 10:22:45 AM »

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Makes sense .-.

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2014, 01:46:53 PM »

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yes however, Kid Buus and Great nameks skills are powerful AF. They are perfect AOEs.

GN has the fist pounding which just decimates anyone in its range and its Success based which makes it even better.

KB has a powerful AOE that is spammable. Nuff said.


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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 06:26:19 PM »

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Hello,first im asking and then im posting,my reason is cause i aint so sure about it,did ever buu used k.o.k? or piccolo or kami? According to dbo history for majins and nameks,the story says few about power ups and super skills,but nothing about certain powers or transformations for them.
 In a way i got in mind,that it was easy for the developers copy paste the k.o.k for all races,i mean for humans the k.o.k doesnt need a backround story to support it,but for majins and nameks they should atleast mention something.
 Anyways,my look on k.o.k on majins and nameks could change in DBOR easy,with just a name replace,a diferent aura color and a small story back up for them,i think this could settle things,idk might be verry bad idea,it was just a thought,if anyone has a clue about k.o.k on majins and nameks,please post a link or something,i would like to learn more about it,thanks in advance...

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2014, 08:33:27 PM »

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Hello,first im asking and then im posting,my reason is cause i aint so sure about it,did ever buu used k.o.k? or piccolo or kami? According to dbo history for majins and nameks,the story says few about power ups and super skills,but nothing about certain powers or transformations for them.
 In a way i got in mind,that it was easy for the developers copy paste the k.o.k for all races,i mean for humans the k.o.k doesnt need a backround story to support it,but for majins and nameks they should atleast mention something.
 Anyways,my look on k.o.k on majins and nameks could change in DBOR easy,with just a name replace,a diferent aura color and a small story back up for them,i think this could settle things,idk might be verry bad idea,it was just a thought,if anyone has a clue about k.o.k on majins and nameks,please post a link or something,i would like to learn more about it,thanks in advance...

Since it 1000 years from original dbz story, i guess for them k.o.k became normal thing to learn, in dbz only goku knew it so its not normal even for humans but its new era :P
Good idea Ice, nice thinking!:)

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2014, 09:56:22 PM »
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Good idea, GN and Pure Majin were really useless without skills  :-\
Hello,first im asking and then im posting,my reason is cause i aint so sure about it,did ever buu used k.o.k? or piccolo or kami? According to dbo history for majins and nameks,the story says few about power ups and super skills,but nothing about certain powers or transformations for them.
 In a way i got in mind,that it was easy for the developers copy paste the k.o.k for all races,i mean for humans the k.o.k doesnt need a backround story to support it,but for majins and nameks they should atleast mention something.
 Anyways,my look on k.o.k on majins and nameks could change in DBOR easy,with just a name replace,a diferent aura color and a small story back up for them,i think this could settle things,idk might be verry bad idea,it was just a thought,if anyone has a clue about k.o.k on majins and nameks,please post a link or something,i would like to learn more about it,thanks in advance...
Why would you want a different aura? Kaioken aura IS red you can't change it :S
And you don't need background story for nameks or majin. If humans can learn it, then the other races can too.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2014, 01:36:19 AM »

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What Jocer said it is true but on lvl 1 skills won't be that good.
They will at least make dmg. This skills will be only used for farm anyway.
Ofc People who want big dmg, they would max them.
For me it is stupid that PVP players, using GN only to walk around  and that is it LOL. About Kaio-Ken thing, it is special skill that push your Qi (Chi) and you become stronger, faster. It is like people on steroids. In future, all would learn it but since people wouldn't be pure blooded ones, they would be weaker. That is why we need to wish with dragon balls to awake that hidden part of power inside aka transformation.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2014, 03:45:21 AM »

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Why would you want a different aura? Kaioken aura IS red you can't change it :S
And you don't need background story for nameks or majin. If humans can learn it, then the other races can too.

I didnt say i want diferent aura color for k.o.k,i said to make a new story for each race separate to support k.o.k on them or change the name of k.o.k  and place a new color for the aura with new story backround for each race,my point was like k.o.k was a Goku thingy aka ssj's aka 1000 age humans...there was no other races that could use k.o.k or ssj,in that thought,we could see majinhuman/ssjbuu witch it didnt happen thankfully.
 My thought was like,a super form(ex k.o.k) wich majins and nameks can use skills,transformations to be race restricted,as you can count k.o.k as a form...

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2014, 03:53:32 AM »
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I like this idea....I always said to my friends that it's kinda unfair that ssj's can use all their skills while nameks and majins have to spend SP. Even if the attacks are powerful it's still unfair.

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2014, 04:25:35 AM »

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I didnt say i want diferent aura color for k.o.k,i said to make a new story for each race separate to support k.o.k on them or change the name of k.o.k  and place a new color for the aura with new story backround for each race,my point was like k.o.k was a Goku thingy aka ssj's aka 1000 age humans...there was no other races that could use k.o.k or ssj,in that thought,we could see majinhuman/ssjbuu witch it didnt happen thankfully.
 My thought was like,a super form(ex k.o.k) wich majins and nameks can use skills,transformations to be race restricted,as you can count k.o.k as a form...

There should be think for new transformations soo no thx.
Kaioken is there is too buff you little. But if people decide to change them in future, there should be for nameks - super namek and for majins super majin. Super Namek - Kami and Piccolo fusion thing and Super Majin - Human like Majin, like in DBZ Evil Majin that "eat" fat majin.  Their stats would only be more def and speed and this form would eat their EP.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2014, 04:38:45 AM »

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There should be think for new transformations soo no thx.
Kaioken is there is too buff you little. But if people decide to change them in future, there should be for nameks - super namek and for majins super majin. Super Namek - Kami and Piccolo fusion thing and Super Majin - Human like Majin, like in DBZ Evil Majin that "eat" fat majin.  Their stats would only be more def and speed and this form would eat their EP.

As i said before,it might be a bad idea,it was only a thought i had and a question about k.o.k on majins and nameks,wich we saw them for first time in DBO with no explanation,i know that the skills was learned over the expert npc's but still that aint a go for me,i would want to read a small story covering it up...might be only me....so nvm lol

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2014, 04:40:05 AM »

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Fighters, Swordsmen, Plasmas, Dendes, Pokos, Karma and turtles overall love KOK better anyway.

KOK - Increases attack and crit rate. For DPS classes they choose that over their transformation anyway.

I always had KOK in my build as a Fighter for the crit rate and attack. SSJ was just an alternative.

The transformations are usually just for show.

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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2014, 04:41:40 AM »

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Well for people like you that can be easy done.
Kaio-Ken - we wish for it from dragon.
He give us power of King Kai.
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KOK is allowed to everyone because it was given by King Kai.

This is why i wanted to make Instant transmission a wish because it isnt a certian classes skill. It was given by the yardrats

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KOK is allowed to everyone because it was given by King Kai.

This is why i wanted to make Instant transmission a wish because it isnt a certian classes skill. It was given by the yardrats

I agree on this 100%.
Plus IT should be unlocked without using SP.
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2014, 04:48:05 AM »

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Hmm interesting i see your point and now i agree too for the instant transmition,thanks for the answers guys

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Hmm interesting i see your point and now i agree too for the instant transmition,thanks for the answers guys
All of us, well mature people who want cool game, want game where is everything 100% perfect. Still we can post here all what we think that can be cool to add and hope that DBOR team would look on this and take maybe 1% of what we post on this forums. Well after all DBOR will be better than DBO.
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2014, 04:54:55 AM »

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I love the discussion being argued in a mature manner. Guys please continue with the discussions with ideas and things you guys want implemented so, that i can report it  to the team where we can discuss it.

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So far, I just would like to see 2 things in DBOR:

First, would be to switch on/off the transformations whenever you want as you have enough ep to transform. Then, if your ep goes to zero, one hour cooldown (all races);

Second, the Instant Transmission for everyone.