Topic: turtle build (Read 4388 times)

MfDoomage · « **on:** March 29, 2014, 06:06:10 AM »

granted it will b subject to change as classes get more balanced/changed up a bit.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001014001011001000333030012255511333104432100

this is build I was thinking of. any advice is welcome. just explain why u make changes u do if u can.

Takaroku · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2014, 07:37:37 AM »

I say sacrifice some spirit rod toss for spiritual damage boost(buff) if you want the most damage out of your attacks

kami97 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2014, 07:53:22 AM »

first thing you should say is are you making a build for pvp or pve

Ren · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2014, 08:57:23 AM »

This was my turtle build:
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-41001014001041001010330030010255013333104432100

MfDoomage · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:15:13 PM »

Quote from: kami97 on March 29, 2014, 07:53:22 AM

first thing you should say is are you making a build for pvp or pve

I guess I haven't decided. im very tempted to go pvp. but im a big fan of SM in pvp.
Lets go with PVE

Nemesis · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:04:50 PM »

This build is designed for a turtle pve :
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-41004084001001001000310030010255011333104432000

Xeyon · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:34:48 PM »

This was my build, pretty good for pve and pvp
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01004014001021001000333030012253011333104432130

Though I gotta say turtles are not just about the build.
You've got a lot of options how to react in certain situations, so you need to try a few things and come up with your favourite playing style.
Here is a build for the basic skills that are really necessary in my opinion. The remaining points are up to the way you like to play.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01004004001001001000333030010251011333104432000

kami97 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2014, 01:53:45 AM »

I would use this one
looks good for pve and useful for pvp
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001004001004001000333030011151511333334402130

BlazingBarrager · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2014, 07:48:45 PM »

I figure this could work.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01004084000001000000303030010255011333104432130

And some notes about the build:

Kamehameha is just a filler, but it's still a decent skill to use. Good power, quick CD, and only a 1 sec charge. Same with Scatter Shot, though it's an AOE which is important for PvE.

Attack Shackle is actually a blessing in disguise for PvE as you can combine it with another classes' skill (forgot which one) to prevent bosses from attacking completely. Even without the combined debuff you still hinder the bosses' attack speed making them less likely to attack.

I didn't put Sleep in because, in my opinion, it's useless in PvE. You have an AOE stun for starters and most (if not all) bosses are immune to sleep. The two second cast time is also a major letdown.

MajinMusic · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2014, 10:11:08 AM »

This was mine

Nemesis · « **Reply #10 on:** April 14, 2014, 10:05:36 PM »

Quote from: Musicchef on April 14, 2014, 10:11:08 AM

This was mine

I see some skill that a turtle does not need that much for example:
-kame-3/8? makes not much damage
-dex buff: a turtle need a lot of FOC
-scatter shot goes for pve set to maximum, it is a very efficient aoe skill

BlazingBarrager · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2014, 05:26:39 AM »

Besides, that build was from 60 cap. lol

MfDoomage · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2014, 03:37:19 PM »

Gunna assume

Quote from: Nemesis on April 14, 2014, 10:05:36 PM

I see some skill that a turtle does not need that much for example:
-kame-3/8? makes not much damage
-dex buff: a turtle need a lot of FOC
-scatter shot goes for pve set to maximum, it is a very efficient aoe skill

kame @3/8 was for kd.

Xeyon · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2014, 05:57:22 PM »

Could be possible, although i think 2/8 is enough to get kd. Anyway putting Turtle Rod Hurl on 2/5 for KD would be better then, because it has no cast time.

Nemesis · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2014, 06:03:03 PM »

Quote from: MfDoomage on April 17, 2014, 03:37:19 PM

Gunna assume kame @3/8 was for kd.

superkame is better so savings 3sp instead of throwing them

Xeyon · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2014, 06:22:04 PM »

Quote from: Nemesis on April 17, 2014, 06:03:03 PM

superkame is better so savings 3sp instead of throwing them

If you are using KD with super kame, then you couldn't get a crit.
So having another for kd isn't a waste of sp in my opinion, but I'd still go for the Turtle Rod Hurl instead.

Besides at level 70 cap you could have wasted a few sp. I was always having like 5 sp that i didn't knew what to do with, so i tried a few things, resetted them when I had the chance and tried other skills. It didn't do any harm to the strength of my char

Nemesis · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2014, 06:31:08 PM »

there is also the giant that makes more damage if you want to do crit

Xeyon · « **Reply #17 on:** April 17, 2014, 06:53:09 PM »

Quote from: Nemesis on April 17, 2014, 06:31:08 PM

there is also the giant that makes more damage if you want to do crit

Sure but why not leaving both chances for a crit there?

Here a little example(Charge RP is meant during the the sleep debuff is active):

...Sleep, Charge RP, KD with Scattershot, Super Kame , KD with Turtle Rod Hurl, Giant Kame,...

this looks better to me than:

...Sleep, Charge RP, KD with Super Kame, Giant Kame, KD with scattershot...

Besides against SKs you could use 3x KDs instead of 2x which is more useful than trying a crit on them, because of their high anticrit.
If it happens that you use a lot of CD the Turtle Rod Hurl KD can be also spammed, providing you have enough RP of course

Noki · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2014, 12:57:01 AM »

This build is good for PvP but you can do anyway do Pve with this

http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01004001001004001000333330012251511333134430000

marco23 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 24, 2014, 02:03:20 AM »

My build pvp/pve for turtle

http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01004024001011001000333030012251011333104432130

Xeyon · « **Reply #20 on:** April 24, 2014, 06:56:21 AM »

Quote from: marco23 on April 24, 2014, 02:03:20 AM

My build pvp/pve for turtle

http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01004024001011001000333030012251011333104432130

Very good build, just wondering why you didn't use 2 SP xD

Kyra一亀 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2014, 07:52:37 AM »

My build for female turtle xD
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01004014001011001000333030012255111333104432200

Pvp solo for budokai, party and pve ;D

Iceman · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2014, 10:25:19 AM »

Divine used this build. Well build like this, I am not sure is it 100% like his.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01002004001004001000333330012251511333104432000

MaLaw · « **Reply #23 on:** May 23, 2014, 10:47:22 AM »

Quote from: Iceman on May 23, 2014, 10:25:19 AM

Divine used this build. Well build like this, I am not sure is it 100% like his.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01002004001004001000333330012251511333104432000

Need Spirit Rod in this build
I think he had a build like that.
http://dborevelations.com/forums/index.php?action=skillcalc_class4#Turtle-Hermit-01001004001004001000330330012251511333104432400

Kyra一亀 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2014, 10:58:28 AM »

DiviNe use dex passive too