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« on: January 04, 2014, 03:11:10 PM »

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This reaaaaaly needs to be fixed. and i believe more people agree to this too. SSJ EP is a pain the ass. u cant even fight properly without using an EP pot or autopot. and thats probably why most people don't use SSJ much . Comon most people use it just to show off :P

Wouldn't it be a  good i dea to reduce ssj EP a lil bit? Kaioken too but not as much as ssj

Theres another option . SSJ not having EP reduced but Time limit . just like Giant Namek .
but in my opinion that would  suck

So what do you guys think agree or disagree? or any other ideas?

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 03:13:12 PM »

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i agree with this person i had trouble using my turtle as a super saiyan this problem must be dealt with or else hacks must be involved O_O (not saying ill make a hack)

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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 03:13:58 PM »

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I think it was fine for spiritualist. I never had a problem maintaining ssj on my turtle. On MA, that's a different story. I do agree that it should be changed so MA can maintain it. I remember using it I would have to sit down after killing like 2-3 mobs. Shit was annoying.

It would be nice if the ep drain was reduced a lot.

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 03:15:17 PM »

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Yeah it was really hard to maintain it but not impossible, tho you'd need to waste a lot of time using foods and pots, so i guess yeah either reducing the ep drain or just simply increasing the base ep regen would be a big help.

basically yeah what steven just said, it wasn't worth it going ssj as a MA


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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 03:16:05 PM »
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 I like this just not the ssj with time limit part. good idea!  :)

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 03:16:30 PM »

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I agree on this. It should be decreased by alot.

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 03:19:22 PM »

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SSJ was fine on Spiritualist but sucked ass on MA. Dumke had an idea for it. It's on  naughtyword Development forums in DBOCOM.

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 03:20:07 PM »

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Supersaiyan is suppose to take alot of EP. Just like kaioken, its always been a strain on the body.

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 03:21:48 PM »

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Supersaiyan is suppose to take alot of EP. Just like kaioken, its always been a strain on the body.

It's stupid how you can maintain it very easily as a spiritualist but you have such a hard time doing it as a Martial Artist. It should be equal for both of them.

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2014, 03:22:45 PM »

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Supersaiyan is suppose to take alot of EP. Just like kaioken, its always been a strain on the body.

yeah but not that much i think.. it was a bit to much

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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2014, 03:24:45 PM »

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yeah but it was a bit too much in game . Nobody can maintain it enough . You have to sit down or use EP Pot all the time . idk bout u but i dont rember Vegeta / Gohan / Goku/. Trunks or anybody doing that lol. Really just some Reduction wouldn't hurt

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2014, 03:25:21 PM »

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Yes MA's have short CD skills that cost more EP so it obviously takes their EP fast
Spritualist have alot of EP as it is so it drains slower and their skills have long CD so, they dont spam skills.

The EP should revalued too

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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2014, 03:25:53 PM »

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yeah but it was a bit too much in game . Nobody can maintain it enough . You have to sit down or use EP Pot all the time . idk bout u but i dont rember Vegeta / Gohan / Goku/. Trunks or anybody doing that lol. Really just some Reduction wouldn't hurt

that's exacly what i meant

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2014, 03:26:25 PM »

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wait maybe i was using it wrong on my turtle -_- but my fighter never really got super saiyan i dreamed of it being hard on him -_-

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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2014, 03:27:14 PM »

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wait maybe i was using it wrong on my turtle -_- but my fighter never really got super saiyan i dreamed of it being hard on him -_-

SSJ Pot > Kaioken > SSJ

Kaioken is way better

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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2014, 03:27:59 PM »

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wait techinally didn't goku and gohan find a way to fully withhold supersaiyan

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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2014, 03:28:59 PM »

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This reaaaaaly needs to be fixed. and i believe more people agree to this too. SSJ EP is a pain the ass. u cant even fight properly without using an EP pot or autopot. and thats probably why most people don't use SSJ much . Comon most people use it just to show off :P

Wouldn't it be a  good i dea to reduce ssj EP a lil bit? Kaioken too but not as much as ssj

Theres another option . SSJ not having EP reduced but Time limit . just like Giant Namek .
but in my opinion that would  suck

So what do you guys think agree or disagree? or any other ideas?


I have no idea what your talking about when i was using my Turtle Hermit i would go SSJ and remain SSJ for hours on end and not once use an EP pot if your having problems maintaining EP Make a buffer and a second account and give it to a friend and ask them to buff you or duel boot dbo and do it yha self.

i know this reads like im targeting you but i have this argument with my friend all the time also with kaioken When you go saying it will drain your energy just as it would do in the Anime GOKU CANT STAY SSJ/KAIOKEN FOREVER PEOPLE WHY CANT YOU SEE THIS.

This is why you need a buffer and dende to help maintain theses things cuz without or reduced ep reduction on ssj/kaioken there is no real point for Dende EP heal skill or a buffers Ep Recover buff Unless you some silly little nub who just spams his skills hoping that only one of your attacks will crit. the Only way to reblance it would be to reduce the attack speed and power you get once becoming sayain because lets be fair were humans not sayains so why should we get a full super sayain power?

now kaioken people seam to forget that like ssj kaioken is a power boost so you now pump out more Dmg but you wont less Ep and lp reduction?? are you crazy like i said before having problems get a buffer to buff you or a dende to heal you.

rant over and sorry SonKagu =)

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2014, 03:29:35 PM »

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wait maybe i was using it wrong on my turtle -_- but my fighter never really got super saiyan i dreamed of it being hard on him -_-

SSJ Pot > Kaioken > SSJ

Kaioken is way better

drains not only EP but LP also, why is it better?

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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2014, 03:35:01 PM »

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Yeah, the EP drain on SSJ should be nerfed.

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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2014, 03:35:10 PM »

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basically because at lvl 3 it give more everything than SSJ and has a cooldown of 6 (not including the rp - cooldown) so it's far better, technically, but yeah it shouldn't be like that considering SSJ can only be achieved by db hunt AND has a 1 hour cd + is far stronger than KoK on the manga.


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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2014, 03:36:43 PM »

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This reaaaaaly needs to be fixed. and i believe more people agree to this too. SSJ EP is a pain the ass. u cant even fight properly without using an EP pot or autopot. and thats probably why most people don't use SSJ much . Comon most people use it just to show off :P

Wouldn't it be a  good i dea to reduce ssj EP a lil bit? Kaioken too but not as much as ssj

Theres another option . SSJ not having EP reduced but Time limit . just like Giant Namek .
but in my opinion that would  suck

So what do you guys think agree or disagree? or any other ideas?


I have no idea what your talking about when i was using my Turtle Hermit i would go SSJ and remain SSJ for hours on end and not once use an EP pot if your having problems maintaining EP Make a buffer and a second account and give it to a friend and ask them to buff you or duel boot dbo and do it yha self.

i know this reads like im targeting you but i have this argument with my friend all the time also with kaioken When you go saying it will drain your energy just as it would do in the Anime GOKU CANT STAY SSJ/KAIOKEN FOREVER PEOPLE WHY CANT YOU SEE THIS.

This is why you need a buffer and dende to help maintain theses things cuz without or reduced ep reduction on ssj/kaioken there is no real point for Dende EP heal skill or a buffers Ep Recover buff Unless you some silly little nub who just spams his skills hoping that only one of your attacks will crit. the Only way to reblance it would be to reduce the attack speed and power you get once becoming sayain because lets be fair were humans not sayains so why should we get a full super sayain power?

now kaioken people seam to forget that like ssj kaioken is a power boost so you now pump out more Dmg but you wont less Ep and lp reduction?? are you crazy like i said before having problems get a buffer to buff you or a dende to heal you.

rant over and sorry SonKagu =)

No Problem bro i dont take it harsh . Its just your opinion

Now i agree with what you said . But u said it on ur own On your turtle u could do just fine . But turtles have lots of EP and Longed CD as jocer said . So yeah obviously it would hold much longer . But on Fighter On your OWN you couldnt hold SSJ for more than 5 minutes. Either you have to use EP POT or Sit Down all the time . The only way you can hold it is  to have a buffer or a Dende near you . bUT THE WHOLE point is doing it on your own . SSJ is Really useless on MA's that way . and makes Kaioken Better . I dont rember in the Anime Kaioken being stronger than SSJ . we want to keep it anime based not ruin the whole thing .

In my Opinion i still beleive SSJ EP should be reduced a lot . So do many people agree here

Peace and love bro =] <3

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2014, 03:46:45 PM »
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This reaaaaaly needs to be fixed. and i believe more people agree to this too. SSJ EP is a pain the ass. u cant even fight properly without using an EP pot or autopot. and thats probably why most people don't use SSJ much . Comon most people use it just to show off :P

Wouldn't it be a  good i dea to reduce ssj EP a lil bit? Kaioken too but not as much as ssj

Theres another option . SSJ not having EP reduced but Time limit . just like Giant Namek .
but in my opinion that would  suck

So what do you guys think agree or disagree? or any other ideas?




i know this reads like im targeting you but i have this argument with my friend all the time also with kaioken When you go saying it will drain your energy just as it would do in the Anime GOKU CANT STAY SSJ/KAIOKEN FOREVER PEOPLE WHY CANT YOU SEE THIS.

the Only way to reblance it would be to reduce the attack speed and power you get once becoming sayain because lets be fair were humans not sayains so why should we get a full super sayain power?

 

rant over and sorry SonKagu =)

nahh bruh dont you remember goku and gohan coming out of the time chamber.holding ssj was as easy as breathing air. and ssj was not THAT op that it should get reduced...people were complaining that it was not even that strong in dbo. TBH i mostly used ssj when i would go afk in kokarra.

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2014, 04:33:15 PM »

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This reaaaaaly needs to be fixed. and i believe more people agree to this too. SSJ EP is a pain the ass. u cant even fight properly without using an EP pot or autopot. and thats probably why most people don't use SSJ much . Comon most people use it just to show off :P

Wouldn't it be a  good i dea to reduce ssj EP a lil bit? Kaioken too but not as much as ssj

Theres another option . SSJ not having EP reduced but Time limit . just like Giant Namek .
but in my opinion that would  suck

So what do you guys think agree or disagree? or any other ideas?




i know this reads like im targeting you but i have this argument with my friend all the time also with kaioken When you go saying it will drain your energy just as it would do in the Anime GOKU CANT STAY SSJ/KAIOKEN FOREVER PEOPLE WHY CANT YOU SEE THIS.

the Only way to reblance it would be to reduce the attack speed and power you get once becoming sayain because lets be fair were humans not sayains so why should we get a full super sayain power?

 

rant over and sorry SonKagu =)

nahh bruh dont you remember goku and gohan coming out of the time chamber.holding ssj was as easy as breathing air. and ssj was not THAT op that it should get reduced...people were complaining that it was not even that strong in dbo. TBH i mostly used ssj when i would go afk in kokarra.

hhaahaha so true . They should fix that . Make transformations stronger and reduce SSJ EP

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2014, 07:14:48 PM »

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for espirituals no problems but figther, 2 skills and lost all ep, but  you have the kaioken giving critical and is best

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2014, 09:49:57 PM »

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cut down ep useage on kaio ken depending on how high you go with like x2 x3 x4 etc :P