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Why? Because there would be no story then. unless you want another one punch man kind of stuff
So we all know how Dragonballs, right? After all, they're the damn title of the show, yet they're referenced in 10% of all episodes in DBZ, DBS, etc. I wanted this thread to be a discussion on Dragonballs, so feel free to ask anything and get responses back.I've got a few things to ask, but I'll save a few for a later date.1. Forget GokuGoku died along with Raditz, leaving Goku stuck training with King Kai. So, in anticipation of Vegeta and Nappa, they wish Goku back to life so they have a fighting chance against them. Seems like a good wish, right? Except, it's not. That's like plan C, why would that be your go to? Need a better one? How about asking Shenron to warp inside the nearest star? And yes, I know, if the person making the wish wants to kill someone with the Dragonballs, they need to be strong enough to do it themselves, but technically, they aren't killing Vegeta and Nappa. They're just letting them warm up in the sun. And teleporting someone isn't an issue. Need I remind you all Namekians as well as Gohan and Piccolo were all brought to earth with the Dragonballs. Forget Goku, just use the Dragonballs to detonate their space pods.2. ImmortalityOkay, you know how I said reviving Goku is plan C? Plan A is warping them into the sun, so what's plan B, you might be asking? Easy, plan B is wishing immortality on the strongest Z fighter besides Goku. I'm not gonna start a war by getting specific, but let's just say they use it on Piccolo. Done and done, no more future threats. Freiza comes way later? Piccolo absorbs Nail, and just beats the crap outta him. Majin Buu? Get out of here, this is an immortal Piccolo we're talking about.What do you guys think? Feel free to ask additional questions!
A better question would be, why didn't they use the Dragon Balls to ensure Goku never even got the heart virus? Why didn't they use the Dragon Balls to make sure they didn't run out of money (a constant worry Chichi has)? Why didn't they use Kaio-sama to find the location of New Namek to get the Dragon Balls to revive everyone in Trunks' timeline (save for Goku, who died of the heart virus, and therefor died of a natural causes and could not be resurrected)?
Didn't they learn of the heart virus once Goku had already reached Earth? He'd still have the virus anyways. About the money, in the last OVA, Goku told Chi-Chi to ask Satan for money and I don't remember what she replied (even though I watched it earlier today) but she didn't like the idea. I guess just wishing for money would be even less against her ideals. As for the Namek one... Well, they could've done that.
Two issues... the first is, Oolong actually suggested Shenron kill Vegeta and Nappa in space before they arrived on Earth, and Shenron said he couldn't do it. One would think that Shenron could have detonated their pods in space if it were within his power there. This means one of two things: You have to either be very specific, or Shenron actually isn't that powerful.Not only that, but obviously, if someone doesn't wanna be warped into the sun, then the dragon can't do that (seeing as how Goku refused to return to Earth until he finished his training on Yardrat).The second is, all the immortality in the world wouldn't do jack shit for Piccolo if he can't hurt his opponent. With immortality, Piccolo might be able to beat Nappa, but Vegeta would have still been far too much for him. And by the time Freeza rolled around, when he fused with Nail, Freeza still would have curbstomped him. After all, Freeza could just blow up Namek and leave, while leaving Piccolo floating in space for the next million years.Immortality just means he can't die. It doesn't mean he can't be injured, or suddenly is almighty. And before you suggest him training, keep in mind he never stopped training. By the time he would be strong enough to beat Buu, it doesn't matter... Buu would have already wiped out the entire universe.A better question would be, why didn't they use the Dragon Balls to ensure Goku never even got the heart virus? Why didn't they use the Dragon Balls to make sure they didn't run out of money (a constant worry Chichi has)? Why didn't they use Kaio-sama to find the location of New Namek to get the Dragon Balls to revive everyone in Trunks' timeline (save for Goku, who died of the heart virus, and therefor died of a natural causes and could not be resurrected)?
Actually in the OVA, Goku mentions that they already have the money Satan gave them
1 wish that would save lives and make all the Z fighters stronger is to wish they were all half Saiyan, or had the powers of a Saiyan, unless Akira Toriyama comes up with a God form for humans and Namekians. Also another wish that should have happened is to bring back Nappa, this dude was super loyal to Vegeta, and it would be and would've been cool to have a 3rd derpy (in a different kinda way) Saiyan.(Hopefully Akira Toriyama just finds a way to bridge the gap without making all the Z fighters Saiyan.)
On top of that, Buu could just absorb Piccolo. It really doesn't matter. Not even talking about the fact that only Gohan trusted Piccolo enough to do that.Also, you could say Shenron doesn't have the power to bring those people back to life either. My question is, can Kami bring people back to life, or does Shenron also use magic rather than just the power of the "Dragon Master" or whatever we're calling it.
Goku refused to be teleported, right? But then how come the Namekians, Gohan, and Piccolo didn't have a choice when it came to being teleported to Earth? I'm sure at least one stubborn Namekian would be like, "but my ferari nooo". The "permission" rule doesn't make sense.Instead of being sure not to get the virus, a better wish is for a vaccine, something that is used in our real world and entirely possible. Just a minor nitpick though.
I have only one question for this thread. One that i wanted to make for a long time.Let's say that someone becomes immortal in DBZ ok?Now. Let's say that Gohan becomes immortal. What would happen if he got sliced in 2?I mean think about it. He becomes immortal not indestructible.(Except Piccolo, he can regenerate)
Then Gohan becomes incapacitated until his body regenerates. He basically becomes paralyzed, unable to move or breathe, though I doubt he needs to, seeing as how he's immortal. I don't know if you've watched Dragonball Super or FNF, but in both when Freiza is revived, he's revived in pieces, yet still alive. I think this is similar to what we would see with Gohan; a living mess. So, yes, he can't die, but he's not exactly breathing either. I hope this makes sense.
That was actually what i meant. Gohan would become paralyzed and unable to do anything(unlike Frieza who could even escape from Namek sliced in half). Also I doubt that Humans could develop a regenerating machine like that of Frieza's army, or even be able to use one. Actually, I don't think that they are aware of the machine at all. Although in theory that would be somewhat a solution. So i don't know, I am still kinda pensive around the subject.
Bulma had always been great for technology. Probably, if she happened to get her hands on the machine that healed Frieza, she'd dominate it and the Z-fighters would be able to heal anyone. The problem is that they would need every single part of his body in order to have it working, from what I understood from the RoF movie. That means that, if Gohan were to be turned immortal, if the enemy happened to chop his arm off and burn it with an energy blast, they wouldn't be able to restore his arm.Of course, all this is still not a viable solution since what Nia said is true: They become immortal, but they're remain as strong as they were before becoming immortal. Even if Gohan or Piccolo were to be immortal, he still wouldn't be able to protect the Earth from all the strong villains since they would probably blow up the planet before said immortal Z-fighter could get strong enough to beat the enemy.
Unless of course, they were to use the Dragonballs to restore his arm to them, in which case they could regenerate Gohan. But enough about being incapacitated, it's getting a little off hand. I've got another question though, can the Dragonballs be used to summon another set of Dragonballs from the Super Dragonballs? If this is done often enough, won't that weaken the Super Dragonballs?
Super Dragon Balls? How much have I missed in DBS? Last I saw, Ginyu was back alive.
Did he came back alive?Or he was never alive to begin with?
You missed a bunch. I've never seen Revival of F, or Battle of the Gods properly, so that's why I'm catching up on DBS. Plus, it's more convenient for me to watch, seeing as how they're 20 minute episodes, rather then a couple of hours.If you want a proper rundown on how much, feel free to PM me.
You missed a bunch. I've never seen Revival of F, or Battle of the Gods properly, so that's why I'm catching up on DBS. Plus, it's more convenient for me to watch, seeing as how they're 20 minute episodes, rather then a couple of hours.
Yeah, if you're short on time, set aside an hour and a half for Battle of Gods or chunk things up into 20 minute segments if you can't manage for some reason. I can't comment on Super's quality directly, but you'll probably get more enjoyment out of something short and sweet. It's shorter, higher quality overall (the bits of wonky CGI are preferable to Super's hack job with animation) and you don't have to wait if you prefer the FUNimation voice cast to the Japanese one either.