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ANOTHER naughtyword ANIME SWORDSMANHey uh, you know would be awesome? *snort*if in brawlthey likeput in likeCloud from Final Fantasy 7
Crane , having the most iconic character from a series does make sense. For example ness , pit, donkey kong , sonic , shulk , little Mac etc. all these games have plenty of other characters they could have used .
That being said... as much as I like the character, it seems a bit dumb to use him. Especially seeing as how Final Fantasy VII is most notably associated with the PS1, and I'd be a bit surprised if the remake even sees the light of day on a Nintendo system (could surprise me, of course).Honestly, why not use someone like...Think about it... they'd be satisfying three things with Crono.1st: People fecking love Chrono Trigger. This would be a great throwback.2nd: You fulfill the role of a character associated with Nintendo history. Cloud at most has had appearances, and even that upcoming Final Fantasy Adventures really isn't the same thing. Cloud is most known for a PlayStation game, and it's just odd to see him here.3rd: Crono looks like Goku. Give him an alternate color scheme that mimics Goku. That'll shut up enough of the people trying to force him in there.
Now, Sonic and Little Mac I will agree are the best possible choice from their respective series to include as playable characters in Smash Bros.
Knuckles would have been a great addition. And so would Tails and even Amy or Shadow imo. But I still think that Sonic himself is the best representation of the Sonic series.And again, personally, I would've wanted delicious, loli rabbit to join the fray but of course I know that would never happen (as long as Rogue never comes in, I'll be able to tolerate this fact).
Except that god damn rabbit. She is literally the worst character of the entire Sonic franchise. And that's saying a lot (especially considering the comics exist).
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of MemoriesKingdom Hearts: RecodedTheatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain CallThe new Final Fantasy game on 3DS will have Cloud as a playable characterAnd Final Fantasy 7 was originally going to be on the N64.Maybe this means the NX will have the FFVII Remake?But Cloud looks powerful, I am far too hyped.Imagine a One Winged Angel remix in Smash...oh lord...
Cream was an awesome character in the game she debuted in, Sonic Advance 2 (which was, incidentally my favorite 2-d sonic game outside of the classics).In fact, she was the most OP character in the game. Using her was practically cheating, as she was so damn good.
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of MemoriesKingdom Hearts: RecodedTheatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain CallThe new Final Fantasy game on 3DS will have Cloud as a playable characterAnd Final Fantasy 7 was originally going to be on the N64.Maybe this means the NX will have the FFVII Remake?But Cloud looks powerful, I am far too hyped.
Cameo appearances and fanservice.That'd be like putting Vegeta into Marvel vs. Capcom, just because someone drew him into a crowd in a Fantastic Four comic.And even so, where do you generally associate him with? Half-baked spin-offs, or Final Fantasy VII... the game that pretty much made the PS1? And I'm pretty sure "originally planned for the N64" means nothing, as the only content that was ever considered for the N64 was a tech demo of FFVI in 3D.Sorry, Cloud just does not fit the bill, no matter how you try to rationalize it.Also, considering they announced the remake of FFVII specifically at Sony's conference at E3... it'd be a poor move on Squeenix's part to announce it for any other system any time soon.
Of course you'd think of Cloud's actual game when you think of Cloud, I was simply listing the games on Nintendo' systems to say that he has been on Nintendo's systems before. So he isn't totally random. And I never said he fit the bill :X. And they said "Experience it FIRST, on Playstation 4". So Xbone is pretty much confirmed. If the NX is as strong as people are saying, then the remake could be announced on E3 or something.
I see this in a few different lights. One, while Cloud isn't necessarily Nintendo property, neither was Solid Snake. It's never a bad idea to throw in at least one character that isn't exactly Nintendo to attract outside gamers, it makes sense from a Nintendo perspective.As for why him and not others, let's face it, they can't give us every character they want, and it's possible Sakurai wanted to try something new. And honestly out of all the older FF games, I feel like he fits Smash the best, outside maybe the FF3 guy. And who knows, maybe they'll include a Zack skin
Do you guys think this will be the final entry in the Smash Bros. series? It seems like they're adding characters left and right of varying appropriateness...makes me think that they are just milking it as much as possible so this will be the last time doing so.I can't imagine them having another Smash Bros. in which they require you to buy tons of the same characters as dlc again....maybe they'd include the entire dlc roster as the non-dlc roster? Sounds a little unlikely. Unless the next Smash is such a huge upgrade over this one that people don't mind shelling out their cash just for the same characters again (in my opinion this would require an immense change to either the structure of the game; vastly upgraded gameplay mechanics, or an astounding visual upgrade which would blow Smash 4 out of the water).
I'm well aware that Snake wasn't a Nintendo property (nor is Sonic, Megaman, or Ryu). That's not the issue I take with it.My point is, there's Final Fantasy characters much more greatly associated with Nintendo's past (who have would fit in just as well, if not better). There's also spin-offs and what not on Nintendo's systems that have characters who would fit (like the aforementioned Crono).The issue I take is that they shoved in a character who is quite clearly the opposite of Nintendo's history... namely the protagonist of the game that jumped ship. They merely chose Cloud because he's popular, as opposed to being actually related to a game that's built up of Nintendo's history over the years. And honestly, using a Zack skin would only compound this issue, as Zack has only appeared in PlayStation exclusive titles (Crisis Core, FFVII, Birth By sleep, and Ehrgeiz).Considering there was six... SIX Final Fantasy games on the Nintendo systems before Cloud was created for the PlayStation's title... there's no excuse to shoehorn him in. It's blatant and lazy, and they're using him merely because he's Cloud, as opposed to actually being a character who fits the series' archetype.In short... Cloud doesn't belong in this game because he has NEVER had a meaningful role in any games on a Nintendo system, and is in no way associated with the company's history. Solid Snake has had full fledged games on a Nintendo console, Megaman originated on the NES, and Sonic the Hedgehog has had many exclusive appearances on the system. They all make sense. But Cloud? No. Not even remotely.Why not someone like Cecil from FFIV? Bartz from FFV? Terra, Celes, or really just about anyone from FFVI. All of them have defined abilities (not to mention were given just as much to work with in Dissidia as Cloud, showing they could work in a fighting game, albeit an awful one). Hell, even the guy from Mystic Quest would make sense (and would actually be a hilarious choice).Why not one of the characters from Secret of Mana, or better yet, one of the protagonists of Seiken Densetsu 3? Perhaps the dog that turns into a toaster from Secret of Evermore (even though that game was awful, and was the main reason Seiken 3 never saw the light of day outside of Japan).Any single character from Chrono Trigger fits the bill. And CT's fanbase is almost as big as FFVII's, not to mention would quell the Dragon Ball fanbase, since they were designed by Toriyama.It's not that Cloud isn't a Nintendo character. Third party characters are fine. But for heaven's sake, use a character ACTUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH NINTENDO HISTORY. They shoved him in there lazily because they didn't want to put any effort behind it. Because it's Cloud, and he's popular. There's characters who would fit Smash far, FAR better, instead of being a blatant excuse for them to half-ass it.If Cloud had a meaningful role beyond random cameo or lazy fanservice in any Nintendo-bound title, that would be different. But he doesn't. You could replace his appearance with literally anyone in those games, and it would make no difference. They should have used a character that actually had a role in a Nintendo-based game.
I disagree and here's why, like Ryu , Snake , and a few others I can't think of at the top of my head , they have not been in a crap load of Nintendo games . However as third party as they are Nintendo and other companies recognize that characters are known outside of their own company . An example being bayonetta 2 being released for Wii u when the first one was on the playstation system . They also advertised with the pre existing expectation that people have already played the first one on the PlayStation .( the Wii u came with the firs game as a bonus though ). Meaning it doesn't really matter clouds main game wasn't on a Nintendo system . He's been related too in plenty of other square enix titles. Including theathrythmNow here's to main point , cloud is pretty much the most well known final fantasy character out their not to mention the first 3D final fantasy . Even people who never played 7 know who cloud is . He is pretty damn popular and known for his skills , more so than the ones you used as an example . Not saying they are unpopular by any means , just not as popular . Cloud even got his own movie , which was stupid but it just adds on to his popularity scale . When adding characters from a non Nintendo series they of course would choose the a fan favorite from the series as well as include sort of an updated look to the character , Snake, Sonic , Ryu , mega man ~It's actually nothing like putting vegeta in marvel vs capcom as Cloud belongs to the 3rd party teaming up Nintendo , and he is actually a square enix character .vegeta is neither capcom or marvel . They could have added the characters from the Ames titles and such but it wouldn't have had the same effect . They aren't as iconic .