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GT is not canon. At all. Ever.Either you're misconstruing one type of gear for a SSJ4 appearance or that was a mod you saw. Great Saiyaman was in Z, since he appeared at the beginning of the Majin Buu saga.Also, the "Saiyajin" race in DBO isn't actually Saiyajin. Just humans with the smallest amount of Saiyajin blood, which has been heavily diluted over the years.Also, GT says females can't go SSJ, while they obviously can in DBO. Toriyama wrote DBO, but he had virtually nothing to do with GT beyond giving them permission to use his characters.
That's what I meant about GT, Toriyama had nothing to do with it and had nothing to do with the actual series. However, there's a vendor gear you can buy for humans at about level 20 that looks a lot like the SSJ4 furry arms with SSJ4 Gogeta's clothing though. I remember I wore them for some time.
Also, I know the human race is "Human" and not "Saiyan" but still they're part Saiyan for having it in their blood so inheriting the tail should be a posibility since it's a trait that lies in the Saiyan blood even though they only got a little part of it in DBO. I just guess they didn't want people playing as giant apes or something so they deleted the gene from the Saiyan blood or something. I can't remember how all humans (or at least a huge lot of them) got to inherit the the Saiyan blood though. Just regular breeding or was it something that happened?
I disagree with you !You know all saiyan even Goten, Pan, Trunks, Bra and others had a tail but they cut it because it's weak pointAnd in DBO, they are not saiyans but humans. With the wish they became SUPER Saiyan !If they were Saiyans they don't need Shenron's wish to become Super Saiyans because this transformation start with rage and hatred.But Goku and his son learn how to stay Super Saiyan without rage as you can see here in Cell Saga :For Super Saiyan 4 it's an other story ^^After for the things between DBO and DB GT I can't tell you a lot of things because I don't know a lot about this
What is wrong with an armour that looks like SSJ4, is not like the character are really SSJ4. And about the tail, I think the humans don't have it because they have much more human blood than saiyan blood.
DBO humans would be Goku and Vegetas great great grandchildren if i calculate right.
Actually Goten and Trunks had to have a tail cause they are half bloods In the Turles movie or in Raditz Saga Gohan had a tail and unlocked the Great Ape form so eventually it got cut off but consistently grew back Until he got olderSo at one point Trunks and Goten had a maybe it was removed at birth
So I'd be Goku's descendant? Amazing!
Goku -- Chi-Chi||V Gohan - 50% Saiyan Blood -- Videl||VPan - 25% Saiyan Blood -- |||V - 12,5% Saiyan BloodAnd then at this part on the story (considering Vegeta's family too), they maybe could have done (with 12,5% SaiyanBlood) -- (another person with 12,5%)|||V12,5% saiyan blood childAnd so they kept lowering the porcentage of saiyan blood to the point that the tails wouldn't grow anymore, but, as doing that would increase the lesser saiyan blood population, it started to stop descreasing on a point probably on 6,25% saiyan blood. And still the possibility that some people have 3,125% saiyan blood, and maybe after even more years, the humans will not be able to wish for Super Saiyan anymore. However, DBO's story doesn't go to that part.TL;DR:The saiyans we know started breeding till the population started growing and stabilized itself on a certain porcentage of saiyan blood, low enough to remove the tail but still a little high enough to keep DNA of its ultimate power; the super saiyan.
Assuming that's how it works (since Saiyajin are always breakin' rules ), it makes sense. That's about how I figure it (more or less).Although, it's kinda funny that they have enough DNA remaining to transform into a SSJ, but not enough to grow a tail. XD
Is it possible that it when they make the ssj wish in DBO it multiply there saiyan essence??
I think that'd be beyond Shenron's power...And given that the Shenron you can summon is basically a less powerful one, it's more unlikely.I think only Toriyama really knows. XD
I read DBO's timeline and it was written assuming GT never happened and makes sense since GT is not from Akira Toriyami (or however that's spelled). I can tell because it talks about Goku and Vegeta leaving Earth for ever to finish their rivalry battle somewhere else and in GT Goku leaves Earth with Shenron never to return again (except for the little second Pan noticed him at the tournament thingy) and Vegeta stayed in Earth.However, there's a lot of stuff in the game based in GT's elements. There's armor that looks like the SSJ4 with the hairy arms and stuff as well as the Great Saiyaman costumes and stuff if I recall correctly. I'm pretty sure there's a lot more references from GT I can't recall right now but if the game was based on the Dragon Ball + Dragon Ball Z series without GT then there shouldn't be any GT elements like the ones I mentioned.Maybe I'm just being silly since they just want to make reference to that because people would like it but it makes no sense adding some SSJ4-looking gear even though the SSJ4 never existed for them.Also, I can't remember correctly why but every human is part Saiyan now. Shouldn't they have a tail in that case? At least have a quest starting the game where you get your tail cut off or something. It would be cool since all Saiyans and their sons had tails even though Pan didn't have one but it could make sense since she's like 1/4th Saiyan but Goten and Trunks didn't get tails either if I'm right. That would be Akira's mistake though, not from DBO and maybe it was all explained and I missed it or can't remember. Just improvising here, I just wanted to post about the SSJ4 thingy and started noticing other stuff while writing. TL;DR GT never happened for DBO but there's SSJ4 costume and why does the humans in the game have no tails if part Saiyans are supposed to have, even though Pan, Goten and Trunks didn't get one).
i think this is the so called "ssj4 armour" ur refering to rite..... sorry i didnt have a better image xD